The most disturbing thing to me, aside from the utter lack of concern for the loss of American (nay, human) life by Republican congress-âpeopleâ, is that their solution (aside from asking Jesus to care about something they donât) is for everyone to start reporting their neighbors and friends to law enforcement, rather than curtailing access to weapons of mass destruction and terror. Please, history, remember these people for what they truly are: monsters.
Well of course he bought the gun legally.
Itâs time to repeal the 2nd Amendment.
âWhat Iâm asking our lawmakers to do is go back to places like Tallahassee and Washington, D.C., to give police the power,â the sheriff said, to detain people who make graphic threats or post disturbing material online, and bring them involuntarily to mental health professionals to be examined.
How our country tortures itself to maintain our sacred cow second amendment on high. More virgins fed to the dragon. Evidently, one Amendment in the Bill of Rights is more equal than all others.
Does the AG and his coterie appreciate that Mental Health services have been on the bleeding edge of their cuts to government?
Listening to the Sheriff of Broward County talk about âif you see something, say somethingâ is just infuriating. If your neighbor comes home with a bag full of ammunition, say something! So whatâs going to happen if you do say something?
Itâs not illegal to buy bags and bags of ammunition!
This kid was a known issue and yet they couldnât do anything about it.
AR-15 tends to be the gun of choice of these shooters.
Proving irrefutably that Florida Gov. Rick Scott has no idea what mental illness actually is, how itâs diagnosed, how itâs differentiated from someone just being an asshole, and⌠well, he has no idea about basically anything. Mental state does not and never will follow a crazy/not crazy binary split. But since the intent of the statement is âhey, look over there! Not at gun laws!â I suppose that doesnât matter.
edited to add: of course those with severe mental illness should be unable to purchase a firearm - psychosis and bullets donât mix. Same logic behind keeping epileptics from getting behind the wheel of an automobile. They should pass regulations to this effect immediately. However the vast grey area of personality disorders, spectrum disorders and so on, does not lend itself very well to screening.
Also I should add, when Australia passed their comprehensive â and very successful! â gun reform, they did so in response to a massacre where the shooter had been very âweirdâ for his whole life, but not in a way that warranted a specific diagnosis, hospitalization, or medication. Australia, in other words, passed their reforms because it was clear that a sole focus on mental health would be insufficient
You can own guns, write troubling things online and frighten people who know you. You can be the guy who everyone says they thought was capable of something like this. And none of that matters until a judge declares you mentally ill and directs the cops to take your guns away. To get over that bar you have to demonstrate that you are an imminent threat to yourself or others. In other words, in this country you have to seriously go off the rails to be mentally ill enough to get your guns taken away.
We all know Sessions is bullshitting about mental health. Neither he nor other Republicans give a damn. But letâs pretend for a second heâs sincere. Letâs say we police the intersection of mental health and guns much more actively. What does that mean? It means the government is going to have to get much more involved in evaluating oneâs mental fitness to own guns. What are we talking about? Some sort of government-mandated interview with a psychologist or other mental health professional?
If you ask me, Republicans have some fucked up ideas about what freedom is. Having the government scrutinize my mental health seems, oh â I donât know, a wee bit intrusive? Do we really want our neighbors calling the cops to our homes because we seem a little off and might have guns?
Amen. Instead of commenting on this particular tragedy, this sheriff is being given a platform to spout his political beliefs. These apparently include doubling the police force and then giving those policemen the right to involuntarily detain anyone they find âobjectionable.â Theyâre not even pretending to try and protect our democracy. And, as you say, all in the name of allowing the 2nd amendment to thrive.
The father of a girl who was in the school (thankfully safe) was on Andrea Mitchell speaking out against the lack of gun control and the spread of AR-15s and he was great. His name is Sergio Rozenblatt:
âPres. TrumpâŚdo something, show leadership. Donât come here and throw paper towels like you did in Puerto Rico. The wall isnât going to protect me. Iâm not afraid of Mexicans. Iâm afraid of kids going into schools with AR-15s and doing this again and again and again.â
âThis isnât the America I came to 50 years ago. I love this country. But I donât know this country anymore.â
How is it in this country a 19 yr old can buy an ar but canât buy beerâŚI think the alcohol industry needs better representation in Washington
The shooter had already been reported to the FBI.
This guy seemed to be âoffâ to a lot of people and was known to have guns.
Most sane people have no objection to government intervention with anyone who announced that he wants to be a professional school shooter.
YES! That is something I was going to post.
As I understand itâŚthere was a social media post about âwanting to be a professional school shooter,â but it was anonymousâŚthat the FBI couldnât trace who made comment???
YeahâŚthe sheriff started going down the road of law enforcement being able to round up those who have been âreportedâ as off.
I think there is something to thisâŚbut it canât just be the neighbor who is pissed at your lawn maintenance.
Until America sees graphic photos of the dead kids will keep dieing.
M. Paul
Families with loved ones who are mentally unstable often feel their hands are tired - I empathize with that. But we need to start by restricting access to firearms. If we start with the premise that solving the violence problem begins by allowing individual law enforcement officers to decide they can arrest and detain folks involuntarily, we are basically giving up our society as it exists. To a particular policeman, being brown might be suspicious; not saying âYes, sirâ in the right tone of voice might be deemed suspicious; having a bumper sticker on a car that is considered offensive to some might become cause for arrest. This is a dangerous path.
The sense that this is a dangerous path is valid but it is also part of the reason that home- grown right wing terrorist organizations have escaped scrutiny.
In J. Edgar Hooverâs America both the Civil Rights movement and the KKK were infiltrated.
FBI agent Rob Lasky said the agency investigated a 2017 YouTube comment posted with the screen name Nikolas Cruz that said âIâm going to be a professional school shooter.â Lasky said the FBI did a database review, but couldnât determine the time or location of the post, or the true identity of the person making the comment.