Discussion: Flake: GOPers In 'Denial' About Their Role In Current Political 'Instability'

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These republicans definitely put the “con” in “conservative.” Lucky for them, the country has more than its fair share of gullible racists and bigots.

Not lucky for America.

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It would seem to me that Senators who voted “aye” for each nominee of MANGOTUS are also to blame, Senator.

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While at first blush, this seems to be conservative Republican Senator putting distance between himself and the Trump disaster for the good of the country, his actions betray these words.

He has voted in line with every Trump desired bill that has come up, and has done nothing to reign this out of control freak from the damage he is doing. So actions speak louder than these timid words (as welcome as they may be in their limited fashion).

But it may signal that Republicans on the Hill are rapidly approaching “done” with Trump territory.

Unfortunately the rot that has eaten away any pretense of ethics, intellectual coherency, or rational policy within the entire Republican party will remain until the party can metaphorically die-off and the disease within it that lead to Trump (who is a symptom not a cause) can be cut away and treated like political and intellectual greyscale.

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Sen. Flake is not wrong, but he doesn’t offer the real prescription, impeachment, he walks right up to the line but never goes there, why? You want to be Sen. Goldwater, Mr. Flake? Write the words, say the words, ITMFA.

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He stayed in the Republican party and he voted for ACA repeal. He is as complicit as every other Republican office holder, with partial exception of Collins, Murkowski, and McCain (they deserve an exception for ACA vote but it was just one, albeit important, vote).

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Bingo. While these baby-steps mouthing words resembling standing up to Trump, etc. are nice, his actions speak volumes.

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He cited Republicans “who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president,” as well as those “who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures” — including Trump.

This nonsense started eight years ago! Obama’s two terms have come and gone. And now, only now, we find out Senator Flake apparently had a problem with it? Not exactly a profile in courage.

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As long as the GOP was winning no one cared that the house was burning down around them

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“Put up his voting record” is the new “roll tape”. Whole lotta folks are going to claim to be ‘sensible conservatives’ or whatever, but their actions will expose them as the same frauds they pretend to denounce.

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Facing election next year has done wonders for Mr. Flake’s clarity, a clarity that will doubtless fade if he is re-elected. But even if he were a true-red moderate it would make no difference because history has amply demonstrated that Republican moderates cave so frequently that the distinction is useless; e.g., in the case of Senator Flake, ‘frequently’ would mean damned near always.

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Unless and until Senator Flake issues a detailed public apology to President Obama on his own behalf (if he can’t find any other maybe decent GOPers), his words ring hollow. Then, we’ll listen.

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Yeah, but then he won’t possibly win his primary.

@littlegirlblue Much the same naive folly as believing ‘the generals’ will sort out this White House.

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Flake said in an excerpt published by Politico of his upcoming book.

The guy has a book coming out which is what they all do in advance of a reelection campaign. We’ll see him on the morning and Sunday gabfests, maybe on Colbert, maybe on Comedy Central, but everywhere he’ll be blaming the party he belongs to.

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Too bad all your actions thus far have been in line with the GOP

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I’m fine with him dumping this on McConnell but they’re all complicit in Party over Country and sticking the country with trump and none of them get to weasel out of that.

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The msm will give them cover

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Senator Whatever. Let’s vote him out in 2018 and let him write more books.

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the only consolation that I can draw from this is at least there is a semblance of consciousness of their actions and the resulting consequences on the repube side of the line, at least we know that they know that they are responsible for driving the bus off the cliff, so that when the battle for the soul of the nation really gets going during the demise portion of this presidency they will know WHY we hate them with such great passion and why we no longer have to listen to them lecture about patriotism, values, or any other rot that they promote as reasons for them to govern, their lying and hypocrisy are out there for all to witness like their pants have been pulled down

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Bingo, and didn’t Flake vote yes on the wealthcare abomination too? It’s nice that he said this, but the problem isn’t just Trump’s craziness or the Russia stuff, it’s everything Flake’s party tries to do, plenty of which he is participating in.

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