Discussion: Five-Year-Old Separated From Family Faced Confusing, Bureaucratic Journey

The poor child, being separated must have made him cranky.

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For years, we watched while the people who think this is great became the Republican Party. And all the while, the MSM tut-tutted and swore it wasn’t true. The Revolutionary War cos-play idiots and with the misspelled racist signs, Orly Taitz, Joe Arpaio, Steve King, the foulness of Fox “opinion,” Limbaugh. They showed us who they were at every level and still the MSM didn’t see it.

The one, single, most important fact of politics in America is that power must be wrested from the hands of these people and then, somehow, kept out of their hands until the sheer force of defeat and the advance of time drives them out of the system like volatile poisons. Nothing is more important than that. Nothing can, or ever should, take priority over that.

And yet, the only people who can do that are the very people who are constitutionally incapable of grasping the military concept known as “priority of fire,” the utter necessity of the harsh disaster protocol called “triage” or the simple reality that it’s stupid to call meetings to criticize the generalship when the barbarians have breached the goddamn gate and are looting, burning and raping everyone and everything in sight.

Not for more than a couple of cycles, they can’t. Because that’s how we got here.

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I just wonder how any of them live with themselves, because at this point doing this kind of shit they must be hollow. Just following orders ma’am.

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While in the government’s custody, the New Yorker reported, Helen was given a form by an “unknown official” which — “with assistance from officials” — she filled out (pictured above). She signed her first name next to the statement, “I withdraw my previous request for a Flores bond hearing.”

This official needs to be found and fired. There is no way a 5 year old can properly comprehend and consent to giving up their rights without a parent or lawyer involved.

Honestly, every child who has had their asylum claims rejected by the Trump administration needs to be reviewed by a neutral and independent judge outside of the administration kangaroo immigrant courts.

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There’s no way a 5 year-old can understand this kind of document, and no government official should be able to substitute for her parent or legal guardian in “helping” her to understand and sign it. That our immigration system sees this as an acceptable approach should be all the proof anyone needs that the whole system needs to be rebuild from the bottom up.

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Poor little Helen, I hope that she was well-treated by the foster parents and that she is happier now with her family. Shame on “President” Trump and Sessions and everyone responsible for this cruel separation policy and on those caught manipulating a 5 year old.

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I’d like to see a forensic review of the ‘signature’ and the word Helen written above as name of child. I’m not an expert, but it looks as though distinguishing marks, such as the curve in the crossbar of the capital H was reversed, and the e’s look like variations on a theme. Of all the ways writing can develop, these two ‘Helens’ seem like first cousins at a minimum.
Most of all, I’d like to see the person who prepared this form appear at a hearing at which Helen can be asked if in fact her waiver of a Flores hearing was voluntary and informed. And then I’d ask the creep how he explained the document to an unaccompanied child from Mexico who probably had minimal reading and writing skills inSpanish - and none at all in English - and how he determined she had the capacity to make an informed waiver.
Oh. I forgot. The rule is no longer 'do unto others," and instead has become “do whatever it takes.”

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For all their fear – and gross incomprehension – of the word “socialism”, the Trump administration and Republicans in Congress are, in spirit and in practice, real National Socialists. These fuckers need to be tarred and feathered with National Socialism: it describes who they are and what they do. Their policies and actions at the border are but one example of their evil. About 100 million Americans implicitly support this. The USA is a very sick country.

All legal and Constitutional under our un-democratic and un-representative system of government.

Nobody is going to go to jail for these crimes against children.

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This is the kind of story that needs to be shown in TV advertising from now until the election. The cruelty, the utter stupidity of Trump’s bureaucrats. Not to exploit it but just to hit home the point that THIS SHIT ACTUALLY HAPPENS! Excuse me there lost it for a second. F*&^ing family values party…

Voting for Dems WILL make it stop happening.

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F-ing Nazis.

Did this child have a lawyer? The Constitution says she should. She’s damned lucky she isn’t in jail because trump did jail babies because to him being “brown” and trying to avoid violence and a life of poverty is a crime. And to trump anyone coming to America must by definition be a criminal. Except if you are from Norway.
In fairness, evil things should visit trump.

No it is not legal. Not according to the Constitution at any rate. The child was owed a lawyer for her defense.

How can anything a minor signs be considered legal (without even considering other items mentioned above, such as her likely minimal reading/writing proficiency in Spanish and unfamiliarity with English and lack of lawyer).

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:cry:

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No, sadly, they are not. And have you also noticed that Americans can commit all kinds of crimes against humanity with no prosecution?

“Because deportation is classified as a civil rather than a criminal sanction, immigrants facing removal are not afforded the constitutional protections under the Sixth Amendment that are provided to criminal defendants.”

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Another one for Dumpy`s Pedophile System .

This is like a novel by Charles Dickens or Victor Hugo set in Revolutionary France. How absurd.

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Will using in 2010s America as a setting be the new novelistic shorthand for “dystopian hellhole”?

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