Discussion for article #222507
We may next expect that the Sinaloa Cartel will sue to stop secret investigations of its activities.
Any cheesefolk want to explain how this is secretly good news? After all, Walker was going down so the recall failing was no biggie. Or so we were told.
This story about Scott Walker, Club for Growth, and the other One Percenters began with the phrase âspecters of the guillotineâ. Talk about getting my hopes up, only to dash themâŠ.
âRanda wrote that â[m]aximizing the capabilityâ of 501©4 organizations â non-profits sometimes called âdark moneyâ organizations ⊠âmay be the best way ⊠to address problems of political corruptionâ.âŠâ
So circumventing the law is the best way to prevent circumventing the law?
Makes perfect sense.
To anyone without an intact brain stem.
Unbelievable. I simply cannot imagine how this doesnât get turned on appeal. The John Doe case isnât about campaign contributions (whether or not you believe such contributions to be âfree speechâ or not), its about the clear legal statutes (in place at the time) expressly prohibiting the coordination of candidateâs campaigns and âissue advocacy groupsâ. Want to give $5 million dollars to promote a tax incentive plan? Fine, go ahead. But under the laws at the time, and in fact still in place today and in no way addressed by McCutcheon, the coordination of these groups and the individual campaigns is illegal. McCutcheon simply says you donât have to create a sham PAC or 501 to donate your mega millions, you can do it directly.
Randaâs ruling essentially says that a prosecutor even investigating coordination is a violation of the 503âs 1st Amendment rights. I could be overstating it some, but I think Randa just said âanything goesâ when it comes to campaigns and 501s coordinating with one another.
And thatâs a bigger deal than just this particular case and Walker in WI.
one commenter at the Milw Journal web site described itâŠ
âRandaâs logic is that Walker is ideologically predisposed to hump billionaires legs, so he canât possibly be corrupted by money.â
And it happened in the state wholly owned by the KochCo. Shocking.
So itâs illegal to co-ordinate, but co-ordination canât be investigated?
Bull-lony
âOâKeefe and the Club obviously agree with Governor Walkerâs policies, but coordinated ads in favor of those policies carry no risk of corruption because the Clubâs interests are already aligned with Walker and other conservative politicians,â Randa wrote. âSuch ads are meant to educate the electorate, not curry favor with corruptible candidates.â
Oh, yes. The Club speaks solely for itself, because it funds itself. Pay no attention to the Kochs, the Club earned that money by⊠uh⊠bake sales! And donât ask to see any paperwork on that; thatâd be just like the Gulag.
Oh lookâŠanother conservative judge (appointed by Bush 41) writing an opinion about free speech and political advocacy that itself reads like political advocacy.
The. Real. Slippery. Slope.
In Citizens United, Justices Scalia and Kennedy said itâs important for unlimited political contributions to be transparent and independent.
I think their sincerity was suspect. Itâs certainly not the lesson this federal judge drew from that ruling.
Are there any other laws the judge is cool with people âcircumventingâ? Or do you have to be a Corporate Person for that to wash?
So, loopholes are A-OK. Assuming you can find them and afford the lawyers.
Laws are for âthose peopleâ.
From the article:
âOâKeefe and the Club obviously agree with Governor Walkerâs policies, but coordinated ads in favor of those policies carry no risk of corruption because the Clubâs interests are already aligned with Walker and other conservative politicians,â Randa wrote. âSuch ads are meant to educate the electorate, not curry favor with corruptible candidates.â
So what happens when, like in Walkerâs case, the politician is already corrupted, and has consistently done the bidding of his corporate pay masters since being elected. This judge is a clearly a buffoon, and does not grasp the reality of current politics. There is clearly coordination going on, everyone can see it.
So, creative forms of political bribery cannot be prosecuted because âmoney is speechâ???
From this it stands to reason that if I try to slip a cop a C-Note to avoid a traffic ticket I canât be prosecuted because I was only exercising my constitutionally protected free speech rights. After all, the first amendment protects all speech not just political speech. Perhaps it is [edit]not that much of a stretch to then say that the IRS cannot fine me if I donât pay because doing so would deprive me of my money which is protected since it is speech.
This is absurd!
No, see, you have to circumvent laws against bribery for it to be legal. For instance, tell the cop âThis isnât a bribe, but hereâs $100.â
That way everyone knows itâs not corruption. Simple!
I honestly donât understand whatâs happened to WI. They used to have pretty liberal political tendencies. Now, it seems the state is very badly divided by pro and anti Walker factions, RTW, and coping with high unemployment. I donât really have any doubt that heâll be reelected. But why?
So according to this âjudge,â circumventing the law is an admirable act of freedom maximization?
Spoken like a pure ratfucker plutocrat.
Pretty sure that wasnât taught in law school.