Again, wrong. You’re talking out of your ass.
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Would that be a long form or you would accept the regular? Should it be issued by a clerk in the county that you approve of?
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Kim Davis: I will not issue a birth certificate to any couple of same sex:
Fed: Tough luck, you dont get to vote.
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So did the skin-head official as photographed produce his own Nazi membership card to register to vote?
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Just out of curiosity, I just looked up the requirements to obtain a copy of my birth certificate from the town in which I was born. Guess what? To get it, I’d have to provide proof of identity, like a passport, or a driver’s license. Do you all see the flaw in this? No?
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Hey. Be nice.
Clearly he’s never moved more than 2 miles from the outhouse where his mom birthed him (and his uncle/father is the registrar).
Folks like that will never understand just how complicated getting your birth certificate can be if you move-- god forbid-- out of State or anything like that.
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Don’t forget about the 24/7 Fox News clips showing stock footage of scary looking Black Panthers standing around somewhere Hannity says might be a polling station. Keeping the rubes scared witless of boogeymen and non-existent voter fraud is key in implementing this stuff.
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…which you can’t get without a birth certificate…
Do you think those idiots holed up in Oregon for ‘freedum’ would ever think to protest this sort of thing?
Of course not, stopping the ‘wrong sort’ of people having any sort of say is exactly what they are all about.
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Haha…never ceases to amaze me how dumb those two guys were or how much mileage Faux News was able to squeeze out of it.
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That’s not entirely true; here in Hawaii there were found to be about a dozen cases of non-citizens who voted in the last election. Hardly something to freak out about, but it’s not totally non-existent.
This will be hopefully challenged and put on hold by a court — I can see the NAACP already working on it —
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It’s not just the birth certificate. You have to have government approved/issued photo ID.
It is a de facto poll tax. You have to pay to get a birth certificate.
Suppose a woman has been married once or twice. Her ID will never match her birth certificate.
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Of course if you live in a town that is nearly all white, in a conservative state that is also almost all white, then Myrtle at the polling place just says “Hi Bob, how’s the kids? Wife OK? See you in church Sunday. Here’s your ballot. Do I need your ID? Nah. Don’t mind those poll monitors, they’re on our side. Have a nice day!!”
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Granted, it happens, but so rarely, it’s not even a blip on the radar. And when it comes to those who are here without documentation, there’s a good reason. The last thing they want to do is attract attention to themselves. The less contact they have with officialdom, the happier they are. They’re not going to risk being apprehended and deported, just to be able to vote for their favorite candidate for the local Soil Conservation District Commission.
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If you do not have a copy of your birth certificate, you are a moron. A MORON. You can get a replacement for $15. Everyone should have their birth certificate.
This is again STUPID-TIME. Getting basic documents like this is NOT UNREASONABLE. I have my BC, my children’s, my father’s, mother’s, wife’s, both grandparents, and several great grandparents.
So if you were born at home in rural Alabama in 1940 and never had a birth certificate, where would you go to get one? Again, this is not a purely hypothetical question; many people are in this kind of situation.
Or are those people just MORONS living in STUPID-TIME who therefore don’t deserve to be able to vote?
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In order to get a birth certificate in every jurisdiction I know of, you have to be able to show an interest that requires you to have the certificate. In the case of your immediate family the interest is clear. It’s less clear in the case of your parents (unless you have a power of attorney of whatever sort), but I think most registrars would approve giving you your parents’ birth certificate. For your grandparents and further back, I can’t imagine what interest you could show in the document other than some type of POA.
In my parents’ generation having a birth certificate was not a give. My aunt never had a birth certificate. She was born at home during the depression and the paperwork never was filed. It caused her some serious grief when she decided to retire. In the end it was worked out with baptismal certificates and affidavits from her sibs.
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I have always found it quite ironic that the same people who insist on voter IDs to prevent fraud are the SAME people who are militantly against a Federally-issued Photo ID for all citizens.
Which would be the most effective anti-fraud mechanism…
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I went to my state’s (Virginia) voter registration site. What I wrote before was inaccurate. It is a requirement to provide a picture ID (It is also required when you go to vote). The only requirement as to citizenship is that you must state that you are a citizen and it stated that it is a felony to misrepresent this. That is all.
I am surprised, but I accept that it is an accepted way to register. I am really appalled by the things I have been called just for saying that I don’t think it is outrageous to show that you are a citizen; it doesn’t make me stupid, a Teabagger, or even a DINO. I really was only giving my opinion; last time I heard, that is not grounds for insult. I didn’t call anyone an idiot, or a moron for thinking differently.
However, if this is how it works all over the place, I am in agreement that voter fraud is itself a fraud, and so the current system must be adequate. Now. I am out of here.
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I’d also note that Birth Certificates are really worthless pieces of ID.
It’s a random piece of paper. No fingerprints, photographs, DNA.
If we’re really trying to prevent fraud, wouldn’t it be smarter to use something that actually links an individual to their identity?
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