Discussion: FBI Has Obtained Wiretaps Of Russian Official With NRA Ties Who Met Trump Jr

During this Memorial Day weekend, let us all thank our brave men and women who have fought and died so a political party and major gun lobbying organization could work with Russia to win an election.

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Mr. Trump’s son is going to jail.

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Oh, and the SIGINT will get you very time.

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Grifters Of Petersburg?

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What is on the tapes:

ā€œconversations between Torshin and convicted money launderer Alexander Romanovā€

per the article. Goes on to say:

Torshin, the head of a Russian gun group run by right wing extremists, met with Donald Trump Jr. at an NRA event in 2016.

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I bet you do, Mike, I bet you do.

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A-HA! So that’s why Warren Buffett went big into underwear futures!

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Let’s get the story…

the tapes are from 2013 when Torshin and Romanov were conspiring each other, not Trumps.
in 2014 some of the Russian olegarchs were sanctioned

by 2016 DJTjr should not have been talking TO shady crooks and bankers during the campaign nor transition nor NRA conventions nor inaugurations…

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It’s not at all clear that the tapes at issue are from 2013. The article says the Spanish police were tapping Torshin’s phone before it tried to arrest him in 2013. It doesn’t say it stopped doing so and it doesn’t say when any conversations of particular interest to the SC took place.

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inconsistency was when Jr said he’d talked TO no Russians… the tapes just set the stage as to why he was trying to deny talking to corrupt Russians

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No. He’s talking to Romanov et al. Torshin is talking about his conversations about potential(?) meetings with Beavis and Cockholster’s campaign cronies (I think he told El Padrino [Romanov], ā€œEstos bastardos codiciosos deberĆ­an simplemente colgar un cartel de ā€œEn ventaā€. Podemos comprarlos para una canción.ā€) as well as about his dealings with the NRA to funnel money.

Best to read Isikoff’s linked Yahoo article. Then ask yourself: These intercepts were known to, thus available to, the American IC as they happened. The FBI could have been requested at any time. Why did they wait until three months ago to request them? Why not as soon as they became aware it involved US elections?

The weirdness continues unabated.

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Trump Jr. has admitted to meeting Torshin at the NRA convention. He said they just exchanged pleasantries. Presumably, if the tapes really are a threat to him, they show that statement to be false. They may also give some insight into financial links between the Trump campaign and the Russian oligarchy.

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Mueller started at the perimeter… he’s now working his way to the eye of the storm… like you said, he knew the records were available, for whenever they were necessary

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Let me get this straight. The FBI spied on the Trump campaign again???. Torshin is a patriotic American Russian (who by the way was barely connected to the campaign, nobody had even met him except that one time he brought donuts and covfefe to Trump Tower).

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Ha! Nothing like getting stuff to work when there’s some doubt. Mine’s at least 20 years old, battered and neglected over the years, that I bought used from a neighbor for $25. Fired up like a champ, never been better. So there’s a whole season where I don’t need a new one for my postage-stamp yard. Sweeeeet.

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What’s winter? What’s a lawn? I have some scraggly tufts of grass in a small patch of dirt totally shaded by sweetgums and laced with their roots. I take care of the tufts with a cordless weed whacker, which shrugs off the brutal San Diego winter like it is nothing.

Unless we have a great November election, I’m not optimistic about any lying-to-Congress charges against a Trumpp. The money laundering, though, seems likely to pay off in a big way. MS13 is nasty, violent, and the bogeyman of the day, but it is nothing compared to the Russian mobsters that have been making use of Trumpp’s services.

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I heard that Applebee’s is having a special on Trump stew.

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I was in the Virgin Islands at Christmastime once. Blazing sun, T-shirts and flip-flops, all that, so it was weird to see cardboard Santas and tinsel ropes on the apartment balconies. Winter in San Diego must be something like that.

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… what is going to stop Trump from ordering a secret special ops team to break in, seize this evidence and destroy it?

some might say Oh he wouldn’t do that

  • but if he did - what would happen?
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If it was done by supersecret ops what makes you think anyone would ever find out it was him?

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