Discussion: FBI Director: I Wouldn't Label Charleston Shooting 'Terrorism'

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Oh for fuckā€™s sake. Fire this asshole.

You know goddamn well that if a single Muslim barged into a white church and killed nine people and it was discovered heā€™d been directly influenced by radical Islamist writings weā€™d be at Defcon 2 now.

So, Mr. Comey: how many black Americans have to be murdered at one time by a white racist for you to designate it as ā€œterrorism?ā€ Ten? Twenty? A hundred? Would a thousand do it? Does a building have to be blown up? Does Detroit have to be dirty-bombed? Or would Atlanta be a better target? What exactly is your threshold?

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ā€œTerrorism is an act of violence done or threatened to in order to try
to influence a public body or the citizenry so itā€™s more of a political
act and again based on what I know so more I donā€™t see it as a political
act,ā€ Comey said.

Your own agencies definition of terrorism says otherwise. Even at the highest level we now seem to have two definitions of terrorism.

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IOTIISWF

Itā€™s Only Terrorism If It Scares White Folks

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If you make a political judgment that labeling it terrorism would be counterproductive, thatā€™s understandable, but for Christā€™s sake, the kid was trying to start a race war. If thatā€™s not violence with some sort of sociopolitical goal in mind then thereā€™s no such thing as terrorism.

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Um, Iā€™m not seeing Comeyā€™s reasoning here. The act was clearly an act to intimidate and coerce a segment of the population to fear for their lives en masse ā€“ not just those nine individuals.

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ATTT

Ainā€™t That The Truth

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ā€œTerrorism is an act of violence done or threatened to in order to try
to influence a public body or the citizenry so itā€™s more of a political
act and again based on what I know so more I donā€™t see it as a political
act,ā€ Comey said.

Jesus God Almighty - Roof said, very clearly, that he wanted to start a race war. Now we can get into a quibble about whether a race war is social or political but when you look at THE FBIā€™s OWN DEFINITION, itā€™s an absurd statement to make on its face.

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If a white nutball guns down a white physician performing legal abortions with the clear goal of intimidating all abortion providers, thatā€™s totally fine.

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ā€œTerrorism is an act of violence done or threatened to in order to try to influence a public body or the citizenry so itā€™s more of a political act and again based on what I know so more I donā€™t see it as a political act,ā€ Comey said.

Trying to start off a Race War, the shooters self stated motive, sounds rather like ā€œan act of violence doneā€¦ in order to try to influenceā€¦ the citizenry, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectivesā€ to me.

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Thank you ā€“ itā€™s right there in their own damn definition.

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Comey is generally a pretty good guy and no, I wouldnā€™t fire him, but he is simply wrong on this. It IS terrorism and a political act.

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Heā€™s KKKrazy.

The FBIā€™s definition of terrorism is below:

The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Apparently James Comey is considering candidacy for POTUS as a Ā®ā€“
as he too refuses to admit the obvious.

jw1

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dumb dumb dumb dumb. As dumb as Ted Cruz making a gun control joke: just the stupidest strategic messaging error in the world.

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To a certain degree, heā€™s right that this is not an act of terrorism (and before I get people yelling at me- I consider this an act of terrorism. This is about definitions and perceptions).

Terrorism is something that a minority group uses against a majority group in order to attempt to gain some measure of power over themselves. In the United States, White Men have the majority of the power. Thus a Black Man going into a church and shooting up people would be an act of terrorism. The reverse is not an act of terrorism because that is ā€œkeeping those ā€˜uppity (expletives)ā€™ in their place.ā€ It does not matter that this inverse act has the goal of instilling fear and terror into the minority population because the ultimate goal is to keep the minority group from rising up and maintaining the status quo.

I disagree with this framework, though. To me, any violence used to maintain a political or social status quo is terrorism and that includes raping women, assaulting trans people, and so forth. So long as the goal is to instill fear and terror, it is terrorism.

And our FBI Director pretty much mangled what I learned in the Counter Terrorism classes I took.

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Yep. All he is missing is a DUI per Cheney and Shrub and heā€™d be a lock.

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If Comeyā€™s FBI refuses to consider the Charleston massacre a terrorist act, then itā€™s no surprise whatsoever that nobody in the Federal law enforcement universe has done a single fucking thing about all those white people aiming loaded weapons at federal officials in Nevada.

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Iā€™d say we have two definitions of what people are more valuable. 3/5 x 9 = 5.4

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So was the Boston Bombing an act of terrorism?

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