Discussion: FBI Agent's Gun Accidentally Discharges In Denver Nightclub

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This just proves it’s a witch hunt.

(if you’re Dotard)

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Most people wait to get back to the hotel before discharging their gun.

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Accidentally? Please.

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I swear half the problem with guns is not the gun but the holster. Why has the NRA not solved this holstering problem.

First, we’ll dispense with the grim but routine news: Our findings for the week of April 2 include nineteen people who accidentally shot themselves, nine kids accidentally shot, six accidental gun fatalities, six people who accidentally shot family members or significant others, four gun range accidents, three people who accidentally fired guns into their neighbors’ homes, and three who had gun mishaps while out shopping and dining among the general populace.

I’ve been reading the Gun Fail columns at Daily Kos for years.

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Exactly. The safety was disengaged, and somehow enough PSI was applied to the trigger to discharge the weapon. This was not an “accident,” it was gross negligence.

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There is no such thing as an accidental gun discharge.

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Left out of this AP story is that the agent was dancing at the Mile High Spirits Distillery and Tasting Room when he lost the pistol he was packin’. Denver media is also reporting that “It’s unclear if the FBI agent had been drinking.”

So let’s recap. Agent goes dancing with an unholstered(?) weapon on a Saturday night, loses it and the highly trained good guy with a gun shoots a (rival dancer?) in the leg when he picks it up. Ooooookay.

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I love the passive phrasing used here. It was the gun that did it…accidentally, of course.

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I think the way he picks up the pistol, the damn thing goes off (real guns are loud af) and he seems not to notice and strolls away is a hint there was some impairment happening. That, and the goofy dancing and the backflip. He wasn’t in a quiet corner with a creme de menthe playing backgammon.

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My initial thought was why did he have a round chambered in the first place. And this is supposedly a highly trained individual on firearms and firearm safety.

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This story is total bullshit. One sentence stands out and tells you everything you need to know:
"Police refused to identify the hospital. "

This is public knowledge isn’t it? Why would they refuse? There’s only one reason…they don’t want you to know waht really happened. If they let reporters find this guy he might have a different story like this FBI dude pulled a gun on him, and shot him over some perceived slight.

Remember, the first words out of a cop’s mouth are always a lie, so you have to read between the lines. It’s not so much what is being said, as what is NOT being said.

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I know. This almost lends credibility to the argument that janitors in public schools might handle guns more responsibly.

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The agent should be charged with either assault or aggravated assault and malicious wounding, depending on CO laws. And the agent should be discharged from the FBI.

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Was just going to suggest someone had misspelled “negligently”, again.

Good thing the victim didn’t die - that NRA article of faith that guns don’t kill people would be inoperative.

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This is more or less what one would expect. Now the likelihood of a loaded gun accidentally discharging when handled is probably very small. Let’s say, arguendo, that the odds of a gun accidentally discharging when handled are a million to one since “one in a million” is a generic indication of long odds. There are approximately 300 million guns in the US. Now many of these will not be loaded or handled on a daily basis. This is probably a majority of the existing guns but it will be compensated for by a number of loaded guns that are handled considerably more than once a day. Let’s say, again arguendo, that the number of handlings of loaded guns per day is 100 million. Now if the odds of such a gun accidentally discharging are one in a million, that means there will be 100 accidental discharges a day. Whether anyone is injured or killed just depends on where the gun is pointed when this happens. Now you can play with the numbers and get different results, but the simple fact is that the larger the number of guns around, the larger the number of accidental discharges will be.

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Hmm now if there was a way to track these unfortunate events…or even just to track to see if one particular brand is more likely to discharge when handled roughly, some kind quality seal of approval from an organization that teaches gun safety.

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I am guessing that maybe FBI agents are required to carry gun at all times. Dancing with a gun, and drinking, not a good idea.

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Yep, another expert
No worries though, just wounded, not killed.
Go to go.

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