Terrible
Repulsive
Uncouth
Manic
Pendeja
Although Hayden is correct that is no reason he should not be sent to The Hague.
Trump’s remarks have been used in recruitment videos for both the Somali terror group Al Shabab and ISIL.
I wonder when Drumpf will sue them for trademark infringement?
This is enraging…and when I see the MSM gouge the money in so as to prop up this monster, I wonder just who is the real monster.
For, make no mistake, if the planet is graced with the defeat of Trump at the polls, the corporate, for-profit structure ready for the next onslaught of misinformation, stoking and ginned-up info-tainment will still be intact.
Just HOW does a nation control THESE people?
Republicans need some everlasting enemy for their everlasting wars of choice. Dubya and his “Bring it on.” remark taunted any and all possible enemies to join up. Trump seeks to add an entire religion to the hostilities. This is exactly the kind of bull jive that comes from a doofus that thinks his military school was the equivalent of a tour in Viet Nam. Who the hell does he expect to take on over a billion potential enemies?
When the Military Draft was ended, this allowed men from 19-26 to basically remove themselves from giving a FUCK what Trump says. If there was a draft, Trump would not be able to do 10% of what he does. Moreover, IF THERE HAD BEEN A DRAFT, no 19-26 year olds would be stupid enough to claim that they would “sit” out" 2016, KNOWING THAT RAT-FUCKER DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE SENDING THEM TO THE WARS THAT HIS MINIONS WANT HIM TO WAGE.
GEEZ!!
“The jihadist narrative is that there is undying enmity between Islam and the modern world so when Trump says they all hate us, he’s using their narrative … he’s feeding their recruitment video,” former CIA and NSA head Michael Hayden told The Guardian
Remember that quaint Fox News idea that ISIL was coming across our borders after San Bernardino?
That somehow HRC’s actions as SoS were intrinsic in improving the Muslim world’s perception of ISIL?
But now that (R)s have an effing fascist motormouth as a candidate-- mum-is-the-word?
(R)s have Teflon memories. Nothing of note ever sticks.
jw1
E., you know I like and respect you and I flatter myself it’s mutual so I hope we can disagree just a bit here. Maybe I’m getting a reputation in some circles as a person who makes “excuses” for the MSM. I don’t think that’s true. But I just want to say one very limited thing: This post is about Hayden saying Trump’s blather finds its way into Daesh and related communications and effectively helps them.
There’s no mention of the MSM.
I think it’s possible a few of us are getting too obsessed with reducing the complicated picture that what we call the MSM presents to the main actor in this drama. I think at least some of the blame for Trump has to go to Trump and the people who voted for him. Trump’s the real monster, E., OK? It also has to go to the GOP that thought it could co-opt his voters. That same GOP has trained people to think absurd things and to completely distrust the what? That’s right. The MSM. Has Trump used the media? Of course. Does that mean they could have shut him down whenever they felt like it? That’s less certain.
Call me crazy. There’s more to say, you could write seven books on all this. But I think in our anger and fear, some of us aren’t being realistic about apportioning blame here. Trump is mostly to blame, with his idiot minions a very close second. Let’s beat the SOB and then the questions of how to create a better set of media, how to pay for them, and how to get the public to want that in the first place can be dealt with.
So Trump’s campaign is out of money, his Trump “University” is under legal proceedings with opened records, he’s being used as ISIL propaganda, he’s under fire from veteran groups (and military members are the highest financial supporters of Sanders), he’s backed out of debating Sanders and being called chicken…
If he does make it to the Republican convention, it’ll be because he’s in so much financial trouble that he sees the guaranteed pension as desirable, even if he resigns as soon as possible, blaming it on Washington’s refusal to work with him.
But I suspect he’ll lose it before then, very publicly. This is going to be a helluva show.
Lots of change is going to come out of this election cycle, one way or another. We’re watching history in the making.
I’m sure he’ll unleash a Twitter storm about that.
Mateo, the minute you do not critique things I say will be the minute that I will mourn (and, knowing you, be quite surprised 
) . Of course the MSM is a peeve of mine…and I approach it in social-structural terms. You, having had more intimate direct experience bring to the table, frankly, a view, which gives me more hope in the American people’s ability to fight Trump than my own perspective.
And, TRUST ME, an America graced with a Fourth Estate capable of being improved, is fine with me.
Or, in Shrubya’s case, deserting* the Texas Air National Guard to hang out in Alabama with cases of Scotch and a few ounces of cocaine constitutes heroic exploits worthy of a Silver Spoon Service Medal.
*AWOL after 30 days is considered desertion; he was absent for months and months and months.
A satanic man…whether he gets the Presidency or not.
I like both you guys but us folks of a certain age remember when the fourth estate actually did what it was supposed to do . In days gone by Drumph would have been ridiculed and laughed off the stage but faux and the 24 hour infotainment industry that is the bastard stepchild of the real news organizations have made pandering and lying a profit center . I don’t hold out much hope. The campaign to dumb down America has in fact succeeded beyond their wildest dreams
BREAKING NEWS…
Ex-CIA Director: Trump Is ‘Feeding’ ISIL’s ‘Recruitment Videos
Well no shit!
The fourth estate was more powerful in the times we folks of a certain age can remember. And so were party leaders. And that still didn’t keep Wallace off the stage, or Huey Long, or Joe McCarthy. It’s new that a person with no electoral experience got this far (well, Wilkie) but that’s complicated too.
Look, I’ll put my entire point in a nutshell and then if you think it’s cockeyed and wrong then fine: If you look at the whole picture, the mix of outlets we call the MSM is not entirely to blame for Trump. In part, yes. Entirely, no. I could list the other things I think have greatly contributed but that’s really it.
I hear you.
There is room under the tent for all three of us. As a historian, I am aware of the idea of “cards we are dealt with”. The Media of the postwar era was different. Weeks ago I apologized to my son for the world I helped to give him…but maybe that was part of my problem.
My kid is 35. He is going to have to assume some responsibility for that world. Journalism, as well as everything else in America has lots of potential (like race relations, for example)…we just have to deal with a 0.001% which will never stop at asserting its interests
How to deal? With at least seven layers of police, several branches of the military, an intelligence apparatus second to none, there is never going to be a “revolution” in the classic sense in the U.S.A. We simply have to learn the mechanisms of government and have more people who are intelligent and thoughtful (instead of hateful, xenophonic, fearful and bitter) vote at all levels.
And judging by fracases occurring at Bernie events (where they decided to complain about things that they did not bother to educate themselves on), for too may people, “government” is too dull and time consuming…thus leaving it in the hands of you-know-who.
BTW I don’t disagree that things have changed. In particular with the broadcast media and the big metro dailies, the ones that still exist, there was a level of not just talent but seriousness that you don’t see now. There is nobody in television today who’s anything like, say, Eric Sevareid. The people today might as well be a different species of hominid, they’re that unlike people like him.
I agree with this. I’m wondering what the next two months will look like, given that the Trump campaign has said it doesn’t have the money for ads until the convention is done and intends to play the media to make up that shortfall. So if the media were to continue to broadcast every burp and fart, now they are complicit on a whole different level - it would be actually assisting & propping up the campaign. I’m also curious how they are going to handle him calling her “crooked Hillary” all the time. No one (lately) has run a campaign that way, I wonder if they are ready for it.
One of the inherent problems is that there is no more independent mass media. It is all owned by 6 conglomerates who only have one interest “Profit” . If you think for one second there is one altruistic bone in those corporations you are dreaming. They need want and desire a horse race. A blowout with the score 56-3 will attract no one so they will do whatever is necessary to promote a tight race …quick look over there - the polls are tightening. They won’t say shit but will put crooked Hillary on a loop to disparage Hillary and give the 7th grader all the exposure he needs.
Those with a short memory: Swiftboat and Flip Flops .
Whatever is neccessary