someone still uses Hotmail?
They could find e-mails between all the participants trading Nazi paraphernalia, saying Sieg Heil in the salutation lines, and promising the return of the master raceâŚ
And it still wouldnât be enough to sway Roberts into swapping his 5th vote to the legal and moral side.
Come on Hazel. We need you, bro.
Good eye.
I actually do think this is the ultimate test for Roberts. Conservative courts have rendered multiple bad faith decisions, the travel ban being one of the worst. Here, we have cheating, plain and simple. If a conservative court canât throw out a case because the administration cheated, then that pretty much ends any sense of legitimacy. Conservatism exists to enhance white supremacy and nothing more.
My prediction, bookmark it so you can laugh at me in the next couple of weeks when it dropsâŚ
Heâs going to go 5-4, and ignore this evidence using the same general logic that they commonly use in death penalty cases-- that itâs too late, missed arbitrary deadlines. Thus to be fair they had to decide using the evidence on hand at the time.
And the ruling itself will be his Calvinball logic from the Muslim Ban ruling, that itâs not up to the Court to question the Administrationâs justifications, so long as they are presented with a straight face, no matter what any participants have said previously.
And this case will get lost in the mush of all of the imploding scandals, other bad rulings, impeachment, Democratic Primary, etc.
I donât disagree. Iâm not optimistic, but I also know that Roberts is savvy enough to realize that the deference conservatives have received from the liberal legal establishment would effectively end because Democrats would interpret this as nothing more than âwhite always winsâ. That might make it a little closer call for him. In the travel ban, he had executive authority/nat sec to hide behind (even though that is specious b/c immigration is Congressâ authority but thatâs beside the point).
Why would this be the straw and not Hobby Lobby or Citizens United, either one of which were laughable twists of law.
Legitimate legal folks should have been outraged years ago at the lawless Supreme Court, rather than defending them.
But like we see with the revolving door with Kavanaughâs latest clerk, the whole system, at the top levels, is poisoned and incestuous.
Roberts has done the right thing in the past. This is his court with his name on it, It is his legacy, how does he want to be remembered? He might surprise you.
But then again, he is a Republican.
Because I think this gets to the issue of rigging the electoral system to demolish 1 person 1 vote and favor whites more than perhaps any other. Itâs something that will trigger POC voters and force the entire Dem party to take a more aggressive view towards the political manipulation of the courts by conservatives.
We need to do 3 things to restore our democracy:
- Sweep the elections in 2020, with Dems winning the Pres and both the House and the Senate
- Add 4 more seats to the Supremes, making the Court into the lucky 13. Oust Roberts from the Chief seat.
- Redo the Census in April 2022 if the GOP corrupts the 2020 version and prevent the 2020 results from further gerrymandering the Nov. 2022 elections.
We need smart hard ball.
To which Roberts looks over at the House with a jaundiced eye, notes that they canât even get it together to agree to impeach a President for shooting someone on fifth avenue, opens his humidor and takes out another Cuban.
Rigging the 2020 census guarantees them another decade in control, or at least enough presence to impede any meaningful reforms.
It all depends on the voters in 2020 and how badly the GOPâs and the Russiansâ corruption changes the voting conditions.
Clarified that I meant the census, not the election.
That is clearer. I donât know that we have to accept the results from a corrupt 2020 Census if we control the Supreme and can redo it correctly in 2022.
Damn, I wish the Dems would press Roberts with a program like I have suggested. Does Roberts want to further corrupt the Court, or is he an institutionalist? Or can be pressured to do the right thing and save the Census even if it is from expediency?
In the same way that Susan Collins has done the right thing in the past.
Their sternly worded letters will become extra stern!
How will the court square the motivation vs pretext question when the shoe is on the other foot?
Weâll shortly have a whole series of cases where the Executive wants to deny Congressâ Article I powers by divining âbad faith political motivationâ in lieu of âlegitimate legislative purposeâ. If theyâve boxed themselves into considering only the surface rationale, how do they make the ârightâ ruling in favor of the White House?
So much evidence on this administration on so many fronts,but we are seeing so much impotence on doing anything about it.Really frustrating.