Discussion: Evangelical Group's Plan To Convert Children Upsets Secular Portland

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God so loved the world that he created a pit of eternal torture and in his benevolence he made every single act mankind does a sin worthy of admittance to his torture pit. Jesus loves you, go to Hell, Jesus loves you, go to Hell, Jesus loves you, go to Hell, go to Hell Jesus.

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“…Oregon is among the least religious states in the country…”

And yet they are so nice…

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It won a 2001 U.S. Supreme Court case that decided they could hold chapter meetings on school grounds.

Had it been a Muslim group that brought the case, you know it would have been shot down faster than you can say “Praise Jesus”.

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I have always found it difficult to understand why we, as a nation, have become more stupid over the last several decades. Perhaps it is because we are so easily influenced by the corporate “news” media.

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Bimbo Mom Marceau said ‘she’s a freethinker, but believes in Jesus Christ’…but then again, she’s from Vancouver, WA - a world away from P-town across the Columbia River.

free·think·er/ˈfriˈθɪŋkər/ Show Spelled [free-thing-ker]
noun
a person who forms opinions on the basis of reason, independent of authority or tradition, especially a person whose religious opinions differ from established belief.


Origin:
1685–95; free + thinker

Related forms
free·think·ing, adjective, noun

Synonyms
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skeptic, agnostic; atheist.
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Uh huh, just more of the Mathew 7:15 crowd…the evangelicals are the main force behind the Mathew 7:15 group…God will have a special place in Hell for all those who hurt kids…especially those who pervert the WORD OF GOD…

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Fellow TPMers-- as we progress through this thread?
All I ask-- is that you not conflate faith– with religion or religious doctrine.

There is a large difference between those with faith, who respect the beliefs-- or lack of beliefs-- of others; and those who believe in indoctrination of the type being reported.

It’s the difference between an open and closed mind.

jw1

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Two groups, one asking to keep an open mind, the other asserting that you are going to hell unless you believe as they do.

Why is the later group running the country?

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George Carlin nailed it years ago: “Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man … living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time…But he loves you.
He loves you. He loves you…and he needs money.”

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I would stand my ground if they come after my kid’s soul.

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Millennials, or those born in or after the early 1980s, are the least religious generation in U.S. history

There is still hope for the future…

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The way I see it is that the problem with these modern Cristians is that the Romans didn’t manage to throw the whole damn lot of them to the lions when they had the chance.

Perhaps I’m exaggerating because what Christ apparently said really leads to a peaceful life, but that’s not what these Evangelicals are about at all and they should not be allowed to peddle their noxious fairy tales to impressionable babies. Look around the world and you’ll soon see that religion is the problem. I was a fellow traveller with these same evangelicals for a couple of years in my tender youth before I came to my senses and abandoned that extreme delusion. Their fundamental belief insists that moral behavior can only be enforced by the fear of God’s retribution for “sin.” I asked myself can a moral life be generated out of fear? Clearly the answer is no, even the worthy philosopher Jesus Christ said to love your neighbor as yourself and God with your heart, mind, and soul. That means to love whoever your neighbors are, wherever you find them, and love whatever that makes you into a decent human being. Love being the operant word here. So I think Jesus was trying to tell everybody that a moral life has to be built on love. The fear mongering evangelicals have it 180° flipped which makes them anti, whoa these guys are the anti-Christ, and believe me they are absolutely full of themselvs and their righteousness. They would like to make America into a theocracy for the glory of the Dominionist cause. We better hope to hell there’s little chance they’ll ever get that far.

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beat me to it +1

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Telling a child they will suffer eternal flames and damnation - what a bunch of sick crackpots. What parent would allow their child near such people, I surly wouldn’t.

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Just glad my kid found both religion and disney absurd. I feel like I’ve already won.

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Two groups exercising their First Amend rights. Why is this news?

Can you imagine if a Muslim group, or gasp!, an atheist group, gathered children, as young as 5, in a public park, to spread their word?

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Add in the right wing pulpit pimps and priests. They dumb down everyone 24/7.

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Sure.

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