Discussion: European Court Upholds French Veil Ban

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I suppose if want to see yourself as a second class citizen.

Never mind about that. Where are all the hijabs? What about those hijab creators?

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I ran into one of these black-clad ā€˜ghostsā€™, full hijab + eye netting along with covered hands but fresh white sneakers, on a hike in the Bavarian National Park last Saturday. Spooked the hell out of me coming around the corner of the trail. She was with her minder. It was warm as well. Black clothing and sunā€¦nice. In reality, it was her bearded fat-bellied goober ā€˜minderā€™ with a lazy eye that should have been fully covered. There is no place for this in the Western civilized world. Men need to control their urges rather than imprisoning the women.

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the court seems to be saying ā€œwhen in Romeā€¦ā€
If you want to live in the 8th Century go back in live in a society that lives in the 8th Century. Too bad our court doesnā€™t think likewise.
Oops, maybe thatā€™s what the holy 5 want?

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I have mixed feelings about this one. On one hand I see the breach of personal and religious freedom, by denying people who want to dress in a particular way the right to do so, if not coerced by someone else. On the other hand I see how security issues can arise with unrecognizable people going around the streets completely clad with clothing.

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Two comments in the actual comment section, three ā€œLOADINGā€ forever.

WORST COMMENT SYSTEM OF ANY BLOG.

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You can thank the guy above you, and others of his ilk, for bringing it upon us.

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King Abdullah bin Abdallah of Saudi Arabia should retaliate against the French attack on the cornerstone of Sharia fashion by banning French fashion, Of course, he and his princes are busy funding the barbaric Sunni terrorists groups who are establishing a caliphate in Iraq, Syria and elsewhere in the world.

Maybe we can ban the use of beverages as a form of headgearā€¦

Being an agnostic, maybe a ā€œsoft atheistā€, oh I donā€™t know! [and there you have it]; Iā€™m more sympathetic to the French Courtā€™s decision. France, is, after all, a secular republic and no none is going to stop the young woman from wearing the hijab in the privacy of her home during salat or for that matter, any time she wants - at home. But in public, thatā€™s a different matter. Itā€™s also a matter of numbers. One person dressed up as the Michelin man and schlepping around Tucson might be a cute stunt. One hundred thousand people doing it would be considered unacceptable, and possibly dangerous, even if no harm was meant or intended.

Although admittedly more extreme [but the difference is of degree], some Roman Catholics in order to ā€œfully realize their faithā€ use the instrument known as the ā€œdisciplineā€, a cord-like whip which resembles macrame, used on the buttocks or back once a week during private prayer. One was seen in the movie, ā€œThe Da Vinci Codeā€ along with a ā€œciliceā€, a spiked chain worn around the thigh. Used with zeal, blood can be drawn. Pope John-Paul II is said to have used a discipline in private prayer. It is never done in public, like the flagellati of the middle ages, a practice that was banned in the 14th century but still occurs in some parts of the world.

Most of the time, Iā€™m quite happy to share the planet with well meaning people of faith. Itā€™s the ones, and there are not a few, who are always coming down from the mountain with stone tablets telling the rest of us what to do that set me off. To these particular folks, I respond with a hearty and unrepentant, Wank off!

I agree with this ruling. The security and assimilation concerns trump.

You canā€™t have people going in masks because they are impossible to identify and therefore impossible to police.

Moreover, as someone above me said, ā€œwhen in Romeā€. If new immigrants donā€™t make steps to assimilate then they are basically just a slow invasion force.

When Westerners, particularly women, go to strict Islamic countries, theyā€™re expected to observe at least some aspects of the local dress codes. It needs to be a two-way street. Islamic women in Western countries shouldnā€™t be forced to wear short-shorts and tube tops, but theyā€™re going to have to lose the masks.

The sorry young woman wearing that fashionable big black black dress would not need that passport to hide her eyes if that big black dress came with a built-in one-way mirror visor and outfitted with transition lenses.

One good thing about this commenting system - I can view your comment history and see how often you complain about the comment system.

Why donā€™t you write an email to management instead of constantly complaining in the very threads that you have trouble following?

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