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It’s just unfortunate that no one brings these issues forward in a follow-up question for Trump.
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The Donald’s father, Fred, was born in Woodhaven in Queens (although from German immigrant parents) but his mother, Mary Anne MacLeod, was born in Stornoway, Scotland, making the Donald an anchor baby. Additionally, Trump’s first wife, Ivanka Zelnickova, is a native of the Czech Republic, which would call into question the legal status of his children - more anchor babies.
Good thing he owns a yacht.
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Please, will someone ask about the citizenship status of Trump’s parents when he was born. If what I have heard is true, his mother was a Scot without legal status in America. Donald Trump is himself an “anchor baby”.
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Thoughtful article. Thanks for writing it.
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Per the republicans - what is good for the goose is not good for the gander…
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Do you mean IOKIYAR?
Who is surprised? None of the RW’s policy proposals - from taxation to health care to immigration to Iran - are workable.
Although there are 17 GOTP candidates, there’s not one policy wonk or statesman, instead there’s a failed CEO, an indicted ex-governor, a wealthy and unscrupulous real estate scion, a college drop-out, a shill for a cinnamon-based diabetes cure, a warmongering egoist, and several religiously-cloaked demagogues.
Their “clown car” nickname is reality-based and it’s a national disgrace that anyone takes them seriously.
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Trump himself is the best example of the insidious danger posed by the “anchor baby” even decades after their birth.
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The problem here is that Republican politics favors people who no concept of international law or the history of nations.
Birthright citizenship has been around for ages. It was not “new” with the 14th amendment (although that amendment allowed it to trump property rights counter to the SCOTUS’s horrible decision). It originated because people with no citizenship are in a horrible state and generally cause nothing but trouble for the state surrounding them, and people with foreign citizenship are only slightly better (because at least then the monarch can deal with the other country’s leadership to reign in their subjects or else).
The GOP is not just talking about ending a hundred forty-seven years of US law on the subject; they are talking about eliminating over a millennium of Western Civilization’s common law on the subject, throwing not just the US but literally all of what we call civilization into the blender.
And this is the scary part: they are being taken seriously. Ugh. The fact that these buffoons haven’t already been laughed off the national stage is proof positive that this country will be lucky to survive another generation.
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Retroactively it would be a major headache, but going forward? How big a nightmare was it for Australia, NZ, the UK and France when they changed their laws?
I’m not advocating for a change in citizenship laws, but the “bureaucratic nightmare” excuse is the one used to oppose the ACA, and any other sweeping law, and is as overused as it’s opposite, the “simple change in the law”.
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Ahhhhh…the power of the pen.
The corporate, corrupt, co-opted, conniving and (unfortunately for too many people) conVINCING “media” has not gotten around to pointing this out yet…
I hated Nixon…but if what is left of the “press” put forth 1/1000th as much energy as they placed on the Nixon investigations, every single G.O.P. candidate would either be in jail (Walker), counseling (Jindal), Witness Protection (Christie), remedial education (Perry), Cuba (Rubio and Cruz), looking for Jimmy Jones’ body (Huckabee), psychiatric observation (Carson) or hosting Family Feud (Trump).
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Indeed, how far would these morons think you should go back?
My great-grandfather was four years old when slavery ended----his name wasn’t
mentioned in “property” roles and there was no birth certificate. Dandy little way to oppress a whole lot of people, though.
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I think that Republicans already envision a pretty easy way to tell if you’re a citizen–the brown paper bag test.
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The only thing that will not survive what the 16 or 17 clowns are doing is any trace of the repub party, and that’s a good thing. The country is sound, and so is the Constitution.
Only a guess but it’s possible many who post here are either “birthright” citizens (hateful phrase) or their parents were, that would be me. The clowns toss it around and it appeals to the know nothings who vote for them. But this fever is only a extension of what started with a search for The Birthright Citizen in Chief’s birth certificate.
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Yep, no one who is browner than baby powder you’d buy at the store and put in the bag.
(Had a couple of aunts fail the paper bag test and not be accepted into a sorority though).
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I can believe every word as I had an Uncle who after 32 years in the US Army was set to retire, HOWEVER, it took 3 years additional time before the Army allowed the retirement. Why, he did not have a Birth Certificate and it took 3 years going over family Bibles, Church records, anything the family could find before the State of Pennsylvania would issue one. That also meant that as a Major at the time he put in his retirement papers he had time in grade etc so that by the time everything had been approved he had been promoted to an LTC. So 3 more years active service and an additional rank equaled some $500 more per month in retirement. He died almost 30 years later so that was a nice chunk of cash the taxpayers paid and I can imagine the 100s of Billions it would take on an ongoing annual basis to implement and sustain Ending Birthright Citizenship, stupid, stupid, stupid…
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Of course the Republicans have a simple way to determine citizenship, but they just won’t say it out loud.
It’s called the “paper bag test”. As in, is your skin lighter than a brown paper bag? If yes, then you’re an American. If no, then you get your entire life history investigated by the government who will now make Big Brother look like a Boy Scout.
Republicans are advocating ALL OUT FASCISM folks. Nothing more, nothing less. Just naked, pure, unadulterated fascism.
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Just do a blood test. Throw out anyone who doesn’t have Native American blood and DNA running through their veins. And then take Anderew Jackson off the $20 bill. Talk about sweet revenge.
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