Discussion: End Of Shutdown Still Leaves Contract Workers Hanging

Thanks, Obama!!

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This is very upsetting.

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The answer to these pressing questions is somewhere in the great desert between Wilbur Rossā€™s ears

Just pull his nose and heā€™ll share his wisdumb.

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Government shutdowns only injure federal employees, private contractors, and other innocent Americans; while never serving as a successful vehicle for Republicans to achieve their policy objectives. If they donā€™t or canā€™t understand that, they should be widely rejected by Americans during the next election.

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Trump,and the Republican Party, is the hurt that will keep on hurting.

It is,for me, hard to believe that an entire political party could turn against the American public for a POS like Trump.

How weak they must be???

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Kevin Doyle, a father of three, estimated heā€™s out around $5,000 from his contracting job as an encryption specialist at Laughlin Air Force Base on the Texas-Mexico border. He said he didnā€™t sleep and lost weight during the shutdown as both the stress and the bills piled up.

I wonder if the FSB has any use for an encryption specialist working for the USAF and struggling to make ends meetā€¦

A million government workers just got pushed a lot closer to that special corner of desperation that intelligence services love. This year is going to be a bumper crop of assets for foreign intelligence services.

But I bet they all draw the line at approaching and entrapping a guy who spent last week feeding his infant with loose change he found in the couch.

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My husband works for a company that contracts with the Federal Govā€™t to provide support for the training for all of their required, mandated employee training. Things like Ethics Training, Information Safety Training, and Civil Rights Training, and internal training for food inspectors. (He doesnā€™t write the subject matter; he provides the tracking necessary to comply with all the requirements.) During any shutdown, the contract is not ā€œserviced,ā€ and the company he works for doesnā€™t get paid. That means, HE doesnā€™t get paid. At all. Never. No retroactive reimbursement for missed paychecks. Nope. He and his fellow employees were required to use any accumulated flex time first, then all of their accrued vacation days, if they wanted to get any money in a paycheck. Thank goodness the shutdown ended when it did, otherwise heā€™d have to go into negative days for vacation, but only up to 80 hours. After thatā€¦ well, heā€™d be zeroed out in all ways. Weā€™re luckier than most. We live quietly, and are very frugal. Still, this shutdown has cost us - in real dollars - 1/12th of a years wages lost. How many can afford that? No matter how much money you make, thatā€™s an almost 8.5% pay cut.

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Why arenā€™t these losers meeting with their bank president friends over a game of squash to get a no-interest loan? Itā€™s like they WANT to be poor! :face_with_monocle:

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In other words, they are being treated exactly the way Toadglans treats all of his contractors.

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We are going to be hearing a lot about Federal workers receiving all of their back pay so really the shutdown caused no harm, but a lot of Federal work is done by employees of contractors. Most of those workers arenā€™t going to be paid anything for being off over a month because the contractors wonā€™t be paid for the work not done. So when some breathless talking head says that in the end everybody will be made whole donā€™t believe it.

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Is that you, Wilbur?

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Iā€™m ambivalent about this. No function of government should be privatized. Any penny of profit that goes to a privatizer is a penny stolen from the taxpayer. The outfit that private employer who employs the worker should be on the hook for this.

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I worked as a fed contractor for 5 years. It was attributed to then VP Al Goreā€™s ā€˜reinventing govā€™tā€™ initiative. It was in a rural backwater w/ no other options to use my skills (but high powered patronage from a senator back in earmark daze) so once I was in I was in I was stuck until I decided to relocate. But the contracting company was clear that they would pay according to their job description not according to your skills or work. Whatever. I did get some awesome travel opportunities because I could whip out my blue passport at a momentā€™s notice whereas actual fed staff were not allowed to do that, either take the time to get a red passport approved by whatever political higher ups or just donā€™t go. But I am so glad to be out of that scene. I know colleagues Ieft behind 15 yrs ago are still on contract (handed down through 4 more companies since the original one we started on) and therefore wonā€™t get reimbursed for lost time. Feel bad for them. But again, glad I left that area.

This rediculous exercise of a shutdown killed the notion that you have job security working for the government. tRump definitely has not made America great.

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True that. It drives me crazy when people keep citing the 800,000 figure as the number of people affected. I would venture to guess itā€™s well over three times that amount, if not more, and they will never be made whole.

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America, please wake up and support the politicians who are trying to curb the radical rabid right-wing madness of BLOTUS. This is how BLOTUS states "Fuck you, America."

Another government shutdown is ā€œcertainly an option,ā€ Trump said, according to the Journal.


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In Missouri, Oler is thankful she moved in with two roommates in early December before the shutdown began. The change dropped her expenses drastically from the $800 a month she was paying for rent, utilities, internet, phone, car insurance and food for her and her cat.

WOW! Iā€™m moving to Missouri! In the Bay Area I probably pay $800 for those things not including rent.

My son whoā€™s application to Peace Corp was at a stand still hopes he can get things going again before another stop!

Thanks to folks like ā€œDickā€ Mulvaney.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mick-mulvaney-shutdown-backpay_us_5c4dd5ffe4b0e1872d44c582