Discussion: Elizabeth Warren On Ferguson: 'This Is America, Not A War Zone'

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Letā€™s play pretend: After the police moved in to quash the peaceful protests, armed black nationalist militants from all over the country streamed to Ferguson to support the cause of ending police brutality and profiling.

I would imagine that the 2nd amendment, freedom loving patriots who held up Cliven Bundy as a hero could get behind this, right?

Right?

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This is why I love Elizabeth Warren, her statement could not be more spot on. Common sense is a beautiful thing, and Elizabeth Warren has more of that rare commodity than any politician to come along sense, well, sense John F. Kennedy.

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But a tweet! A tweet?! Cā€™monā€¦

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Not her state. IMO, an official response from ElWa (D-MA) could/would be construed as interfering or at least out of place. But we havenā€™t heard anything from Roy Blunt (R-MO) and McCaskill (D-MO). Blunt is a lost cause. Iā€™m surprised that McCaskill hasnā€™t weighed in (as far as I know).

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Trueā€¦in that context. Maybe I am just a Tweet-hater and find it an unserious communication medium.

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What if the answers really point to cold blooded murder under the color of law? I mean, for all we know the officer on duty had a vendetta he was acting on.

Weā€™ve seen teachers unions close ranks over tenure. The FOP hasnā€™t really had to defend a 1st degree murder charge from an active duty officer.

The FOP would be apoplectic. And Iā€™m not saying to pursue that specific charge if it isnā€™t warranted is a good or just idea. But a step in the right direction would be to prosecute the officer to the fullest extent of the law upon investigation (whether thatā€™s manslaughter or whatever it is).

Prolonged edit: in-patient psychiatric evaluation is the only alternative ā€“ not brief, anonymous, often paid administrative leave. Itā€™s not enough that people take a ration of shit from their coworkers and get bad shifts until someone else fucks up. ā€œPolice are sympathetic to police who commit crimes because cops are treated poorly in prisonā€ is too cozy of a code and must be addressed systematically.

Mr. President, Mr. Attorney General ā€“ how does the situation look from Marthaā€™s Vineyard?

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This is what happens when police depts get M-RAPs cheap.

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Thank you Senator Warren for making it plain. Some elected official in Ferguson City should have been at the podium speaking calm and providing answers to the citizens.

I challenge every protester in Ferguson City to register and vote out the clowns who are your current elected officials. For they all have collectively failed you in this horrible situation!

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Actually senator, it is America and it is a war zone. We should all be deeply ashamed that this BS is going on.

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Has she heard about whatā€™s going on in Chicagoā€™s neighborhoods? Talk about a war-zone. Of course, Illinois isnā€™t the state she represents, oh yeah, neither is MO.

Actually, the governor should be making the police force stand down, they should be removing the police chief from duty and letting someone else police the situation. Someone with a lick of sense.

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After looking at the pictures and seeing the MILITARY equipment that Ferguson police are using, Iā€™m going with war zone.
What is happening in Ferguson is just an expanded view of what cops have become in America and how little the life of a black person is worth.
Those of you who back the war on drugs?
This is on you.
Those who think Treyvan Martin was a punk kid?
This is on you.
Those who back ā€œlaw nā€™orderā€?
This is on you.
Three Strikes?
Yeah you too.

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The parallel between Birmingham, AL, in the 1960ā€™s with Bull Connors and Ferguson, MO, today is striking.
Today, the police in MO are not declaring ā€œsegregation at all costs,ā€ but ,they are saying effectively: ā€œWeā€™re not going to changeā€.

Bull Connors was at least assaulting and brutalizing an actual crowd. The cop to protester ratio in Ferguson appears to be about 2:1.

Shades of ā€˜Soylent Greenā€™. Whatā€™s next, removing citizens with bulldozers?

It IS kinda ironic that SOME peopleā€™s constitutional rights are INVIOLATE, whereas other peoples rights areā€¦not so muchā€¦

Itā€™s all so confusingā€“I guess, the Constitution still only matters if you are male and white.

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Itā€™s not that funny; thatā€™s what some of the shadier conservative conspiracy websites have been reporting to scare Good Proper White Christians - that the New Black Panther Party had rolled into town (complete with stock photos of random African soldiers in berets) with the intention of ā€œblowing up white babiesā€. If that had been picked up by bigger outlets - which is not inconceivable in the conservative insanosphere - most right wing Americans would eagerly believe it word for word. I also kept noticing stray tweets last night of white STL area residents worrying about roving bands of black gang members committing violent hate crimes against random whites, inexorably reported by ā€œreliable sources in the areaā€. This is the result of one case I heard of young black men in Ferguson taking their anger out on a white man they thought might have been an undercover cop; given an hour, that story becomes a city-wide terrorist siege by the NBP.

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Nope. Def. not funny. Having politicians and pundits gin up anger on the white right may result in actual sustained violence at some point.

Exactly; the follow up to those tweets was pretty much always white southerners/midwesterners saying ā€œBring it onā€ and ā€œLet them show up here, weā€™re readyā€ and referencing their guns. The same attitude among the police that started this entire mess.

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You are not alone!

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