Discussion: Elena Kagan Bashes Supreme Court's 'Blindness' To Secular Values

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In other words, the neocons on the SCOTUS are religious bigots.

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Kennedy’s comments about Greece and leaving the room was ignorant. How else can we identify those nonbelievers and shun them in the political process when they don’t take part in OUR brand of mysticism. What about the slippery slope of broccoli, justice Bozo.

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I think he’s saying that if anybody is offended by my hedonist nudity, they can leave the room. Right?

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Once Kennedy started with ‘higher power than government’ I could see we were in for a sad, long ride. Next it’s Fawn Hall’s excusing the destruction of documents with her 'Sometimes you have to go above the law" (Oliver North’s secretary) which rings eerily similar to Adolf Eichmann’s rationale for what he did: He obeyed “the principle behind the law” which in his case came to him in the form of the Furher’s voice.

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It is mindboggling that the supposedly strict Constitutionalists on the Supreme Court believe that the First Amendment allows for prayer in a government meeting. How is invocation of any religion ever appropriate on the occasion of the conduct of government business? Unless this is now just government of, by, and for the Christian people…

And we need to get rid of that “In God We Trust” junk, too. God certainly isn’t doing very well by us lately.

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I love her - she doesn’t put up with any bullshit from the conservatives on the court at all.

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When I mention being an atheist (actually, I am a militant agnostic) to the other “Moms” in my co-op, I might as well have said I enjoy eating rodents. It wasn’t that they were mean to me about it, but that it was so strange to them.

I think that Justice Kagan is correct, and correctly sees this as a world-view issue. The problem is that it does not occur to them that not everybody believes in their God. It does not even occur to them that they discriminate against people who do not believe in their nonsense, and that this decision directly makes the political participation by non-believers more difficult.

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The U.S. Theocratic/Corporatist Supreme Court

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He argued that “nonbelievers” could “choose to exit the room during a prayer they find distasteful”

I believe what Kennedy was trying to say there was: I’m wrong. This is discriminatory.

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Or as Nixon said in his interview with David Frost, if the president does it, it’s not illegal. This right-wing SCOTUS confirms that nothing is illegal.

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Not unlike the blindness to the realities of racism and political corruption we’ve seen from them this term. It’s the “Justice is Blind so Blindness is Justice!” term.

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Someone needs to give Justice Elena Kagan a copy of The Constitution of The United States of America, so that she can freshen up her failing memory about it.

It is clear that the First Amendment forbids government on meddling with religion, either by establishing one or by denying people religious rights. If someone wants to pray in any place at any time, government can’t forbid that as long as nobody else is forced to participate in that activity.

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Yes. But he’d pray to Jesus for you.

I wonder how long until the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Buddists, Hindus and other “non-Christian” religions show up in Greece, NY to “lead the prayer” prior to the next municipal meeting.

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Exactly. This is my prediction. The ruling clearly states this was OK for Greece, NY to do because they offered it up to all the religions within it’s borders. Now the first town that tries this and doesn’t give the local Imam or the head of a local wiccan group equal time this is headed right back to court. The Justices have opened a can of worms and at some time down the road they are going to have to eat them

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How, exactly?

The 1st Amendment is clear on this - along with 50 years of high court precedent.

Justice Kagan is correct - the majority is throwing stare decisis out the window, while creating a new Constitution in their own image.

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Since you seem to consider yourself a Constitutional scholar please tell us how she is wrong.

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Christians burning heretics at the stake can’t be far behind.

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When has the Roberts court ever followed the actual constitution?

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