Discussion: Dylann Roof Found Guilty On All 33 Counts In Charleston Church Massacre

In case you’re wondering, because the AP writers and editors evidently didn’t think it was important enough to mention, there’s a state trial for the actual murders set to start next month.

Sooooo currently our entire society is convulsed by an election result made possible in part because of extensive propaganda and lying. There’s any numbers of murders and other crimes attributable to the same kind of stuff. There’s never been a stauncher defender of the First Amendment than me. But when you can prove this is the result of radicalization by falsehoods presented as truth, I wonder if there isn’t a way to bring a lawsuit against the people who put those materials out. Certainly seems like a crowded-theater situation to me.

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Roof’s conviction needs to put a spotlight on fake news websites spewing out unverified crap that’s meant to gin up outrage and how it becomes a match to the violent idiots of our society. We can’t accept crimes like these as the new norm.

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Unfortunately for him he’s not a cop or he might have gotten off.

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And, unfortunately for all of our society, you are correct.

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Even yet it has not dawned on Roof how stupid and gullible he has been.

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he’s too “smart” for that

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Pizzagate-putz will be under the spot light soon.

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When I read this earlier, I told my husband that groups, the CCC and other hate groups, that influenced this person should be held accountable.

They influenced Dylann, and he will pay the price.

They need to pay.

Church-going people were killed that day. People who actually believed in a god. Good people.

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“Church-going people were killed that day. People who actually believed in a god. Good people.”

So, like, if they had been atheists, it would have been less of a problem or even OK to kill them because they would not have been “good people”?

Sheesh. That’s as warped anything this guy says.

No, these were good people who believed in a god.

They were killed by someone who was influenced by scumbags who pretend to believe.

Not sure what you’re getting at, actually. These murders were also one of the reason South Carolina came together, if only briefly. It was a start.

I actually think the jury got this just right. Whether he will get the death penalty is a completely different story. I think his salvation lies in being confronted every day by his acts until he finally gets that a human life is a human life. Unfortunately, his death by state-sponsored execution makes him a martyr to those who truly want to start a race war.

No one would give a flying eff about him if he were black.

We continue to miss the big picture.

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For personal reasons, as liberal as I am, I believe in the death penalty. Martyrs can be made out of anything. I don’t care about that, let them. As long as he is not still getting the chance he took away from those nine people, to continue breathing and living their lives, he can rot for all I care.

I am sick and tired of white youth being touted as misguided, sick, or other sundry excuses for their behaviors. Yet let a young man or woman of color do something, then they are the demon seed that needs to be gotten rid of. When the penalty phase is carried out, I sincerely hope the jurors find it possible to five him his just due. The defense wants to throw out he’s a suicidal loser, well, let the loser rot in the ground. One less piece of garbage to deal with.

I feel for the families and the community that they have to go through this all over again for the state trials, but there will be justice one day, one way or another. To all those who lost their lives…RIP.

Clearly you’re not, like, into nuance or you would’ve understood the subtle message @chelsea530 posted. Good people opened their church to a monster simply because they were good people who believed in a loving God and never thought a stranger might kill them. That’s the simple, not warped message with nothing about atheists…

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Far better that than that he be seen as having escaped the death penalty because black lives don’t matter.

As long as we retain the barbaric practice of execution equal justice demands that it be applied to him if he is sane,

Well paint me oversensitive.

You’re basically saying that atheists are less likely to be good people who would let someone into their meeting space not thinking that a stranger might kill them. You’re just displaying your own biases here.

“No, these were good people who believed in a god.”

So, how is it relevant that they “believed in a god”?

Sorry, the original comment and your response reflect inappropriate and inaccurate assumptions about people who don’t “believe in a god”.

You’re reading way too much in what was meant to be a slightly scolding response. I’m glad the kid’s been convicted, apparently doesn’t want an appeal, and he’s a racist shit who had and will never have religion or even know what atheism. End of story.

Fair enough. No hard feelings.