Don’t tell me, let me guess: Mexico was going to pay for it.
LOL. Go ahead, make the IRA’s day. Dare ya.
That is a thing…I’ve been to Ireland twice on extended trips, though it’s been awhile since. In the 90s I studied Ireland’s history from Brian Boru to the H Blocks and up to 90’s. Irish roots of course. Forgotten a lot of it by now, but I’m going to be thinking about this more and watching closely.
At the moment, I wish I had closer ancestry in Ireland so I could get dual citizenship as I would love to go sit out the trump nightmare there. But alas…
Watching the final writhings of the May government, it is clear that bringing the Northern Irish DUP into the government was a serious mistake. European Commissioner Jean-Claude Juncker also seems to have tired of May’s pathetic shuttle diplomacy. The next 24 hours in British politics are going to be determinative of how much damage gets done.
Interesting comments from May, though. She already noted that, given the earlier vote against a no-deal Brexit, she’s viewing tonight’s vote as Brexit vs. Remain.
Fingers crossed…
If we weren’t in the mess we’re in, it would be hard for me to believe a country would willfully do so much damage to itself based on such a narrow and increasingly dubious popular mandate in the face of such evident bad faith by anti-democracy rightist nationalists.
It appears to me that many of our cultural cousins across the Pond feel much the same way.
Amazing that it always ALWAYS comes back to the same thing too, ain’t it? I liked this example because you gotta hand it to Pat Buchanan…he got the that memo Atwater sent about how to dogwhistle, but he burned it along with a few Qurans and a witch:
…and where ARE all these RW champions of BREXIT these days? Hiding out and trying to blame ‘liberals’ for screwing up their plans? You don’t hear much about them.
It is extremely difficult to resolve
Duh.
A very good friend of mine has dual citizenship (grandparents were Irish). She has visited a number of times and considered retiring there.
After the devastating 2016 election, she and I conspired to move there together until the trump menace is gone, assuming it eventually goes away. Even though our husbands were reluctant to leave the US, we started making plans to pack up and move to a place where people were reasonable.
Needless to say, we’re still in the US. I stayed and worked the 2018 election. The midterms were some solace. Perhaps we can finish the job in 2020.
That might be the case, but if the vote is against her stupid deal, is she going to convey the note withdrawing the Article 50 notification? Because if that needs another vote and a bunch of negotiation, it might just not happen.
Simple solution: give Ireland back to the Irish.
If the vote goes against, the way it’s looking, they may go into a vote in the next days about whether to withdraw article 50 notification or suspend it for some time, either specified or unspecified. Either which would likely end in nothing happening going forward.
What happens if the vote to withdraw/suspend fails? Because Murphy…
You know, John Oliver explained it better weeks ago…
Hard Brexit. The worst-case scenario including the ‘Hard Border’ that literally everyone involved agrees can’t be allowed to happen… so will.
There was already a previous vote, as long as I’m tracking right (and this shit is complex and messy), the PM referenced in January which specifically blocked a ‘no-deal’ Brexit.
So based off her earlier comments, even if the later vote fails, since there was already the sense of the commons that no-deal couldn’t happen, then Remain became the default…
I suspect a goodly number of them are back on the Russian troll farms, just where they were at the beginning of all this.
Except that as of right now, it’s happening. No vote short of ‘sorry, we’re cancelling this’ stops the process. The vote in January was ‘do we take the deal we have?’ and that failed by a historic margin. Remember: there’s two governing bodies involved here, and just because the British Parliament can’t agree on how doesn’t mean they’ve asked the EU Parliament to tear up their resignation.
They’re still cropping up on the BBC website, praising a no-deal BREXIT and claiming that the trade ‘backstop’ for Ireland would continue to bind the UK to the EU in violation of UK sovereignty.