Discussion: Does Orange Is The New Black Still Need Their Pretty, White Star?

Discussion for article #237775

Who the fuck is Anna Marfo and why do we care what you think. The story is based on a true story about a white woman sent to prison so why shouldn’t she be in it.

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Did I just skim something arguing that someone should be fired for their skin color? Look, TPM, I’m the first to shout in outrage at outrages, but these opinion pieces are getting absurd. They’re superficial, abrasive, “grating” and frequently just knee-jerk PC chest puffing: “look how smart I am that I’ve cooked up another thing to be outraged about.” They are typically designed so that disagreement with them allows the people who agree with it to just shout you down as not “getting it” or “part of the problem.” It’s everything the GOP/Teatrolls/conservatives are complaining about with PC-ism getting out of hand…and it IS getting out of hand in some respects. This article is proof. Let me help the author: IT’S A FUCKING TV SHOW. You want a TV show all about minority-only female prisoners? Write it yourself, smartass…and let us know how that turns out for you without a white devil as a foil for them…someone to provide the launch pad for voicing angry screeds about her privilege or whatever. Oh but wait…we can get rid of the white female prisoner because we can just make all the jailers white men?

And wtf…is this Piper person’s whiteness a reason for this imbecile to show palpable contempt for her personally? Is she a bad actress? Does she bring the show down? Is she holding it back? What about Piper and her contributions to the show…other than her whiteness…justifies gushing over the minority actresses and their roles and then dismissing this white actress as meaningless frippery and nothing but an objectified marketing ploy throughout the article and ending with a palpably belittling tone?

Whatever…if you want to feed us “thought provoking” opinion pieces on these kinds of issues, TPM, then I have this to say: please start.

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If you’re asking, “For the sake of entertainment in this sort of a setting (in the current here-and-now), do we need a white person-as-the-obvious-star?” to bring in a large® audience – then I’d have to say, obviously not. However, that doesn’t seem to be where you’re going here … or am I not reading this in the way it was meant?

I absolutely love this show. I have grown to love each and every character. The writing is superb – and so are the actors. Truthfully, I was pulled in because I saw Kate Mulgrew was in the cast. I have followed her for years, ever since I saw her on ‘Cheers.’ It doesn’t hurt that I’m a huge ST: TNG and Voyager fan. It also helped when I read Lea DeLaria was in the cast. I saw her do stand-up many years ago in San Francisco. Man, she can sing, too!

Now that I’ve been exposed to many of these other actors, I’ll no doubt want to see their other works. Do we need white people? Um, yes. I’m a gay white man and I’m a little put off by the question. As chammy above states: The story is about a white woman who went through the prison system there. I love all these actors – they are amazing, but that also shines through because of the stories. Yes, I’m also very glad to be exposed to every one of these stories. Uzo Aduba has the most interesting and difficult storyline, I think. I’ve witnessed firsthand the lives of a few people living with varying degrees and different kinds of mental illness. Her portrayal is spot on and brings out so many emotions.

Again, I don’t know if I misunderstand your angle–I am responding to how I read what you wrote.

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So the “writer” of this piece calls herself a writer? Just try to figure out what the first paragraph is all about (if you’ve never seen the show). And how about the fourth sentence of the second paragraph? I dare anyone to try to make sense of it.

It’s quite believable that whoever wrote this is a “higher education administrator”. And a “popular culture enthusiast” definitely. The list of interests (“trivia, comedy, and gluten-free cooking/baking”) kind of sums the whole thing up. Did this originally run in The Onion?

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Obviously a radical feminist, judging by her use of the word patriarchy.

The bigger reason Piper isn’t needed anymore is that her story has become boring and irrelevant. The fact that the other white characters are just fine should be a tipoff that the problem is her specifically and not being white. And that the solution is better writing (or at least, writing more balanced among the characters), not whatever is being promoted in this piece.

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Does anyone care?