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It appears to have been an American airstrike.
President Ashraf Ghani’s office released a statement Saturday evening saying that Gen. John F. Campbell, the commander of American forces in Afghanistan, had apologized for the strike
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The death toll is rising by the hour as bodies are found. It’s way past 9 as I write at 11 am MST.
“Army Col. Brian Tribus, a spokesman for American forces in Afghanistan, said a U.S. airstrike on Kunduz at 2:15 a.m. “may have resulted in collateral damage to a nearby medical facility” …”
FU Colonel and FU America.
msf had repeatedly provided the coordinates for the hospital – the last one being 3 days before the attack;
this was the only hospital in that region of afghanistan;
the attack continued for an hour AFTER the u.s. authorities – military/diplomatic – were informed they had targeted the hospital.
i wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the u.s. used the current media distraction in the u.s. to carry out this attack… afterall, it’s not like this country gives a flying fuck about afghan casualties or what anyone thinks about u.s. operations.
if you’re so inclined:
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This kind of wanton disregard for human life on the part of the U.S. and the epidemic of mass shooting in the country are not unrelated.
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Darcy, if I recall correctly you are an ex-serviceman. I understand and share your anger and frustration but maybe you should read up a bit on asymmetric warfare? This is exactly the type of incident that the weak side tries to provoke. With great success in this case, to all appearances.
Yes, coalition commanders should be wise to these tactics by now, but don’t you think we could refrain from finger-pointing and epithets until all the facts are in? If you are right in your evident assumptions I will fully join in your condemnation (of the individuals involved, not my country as a whole).
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No matter what tone you take with Darcy it won’t help. Having said that, my heart was broken when I heard it I am a supporter of Doctors without Borders because the work they do is beyond amazing. War is hell and this is just more proof. I heard an interview with the doctor who heads that hospital and they were warned in advance as they always are but shit just went wrong.
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I’d like to take this opportunity to thank the Reagan Administration for pumping billions of our tax dollars into building up the Taliban, and to the Bush (43) Administration for committing us to a ground war in Afghanistan. Where would we be without the guidance of these brilliant visionaries?
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" and they were warned in advance as they always are but shit just went wrong."
A new low for you chammy. Doctors fault. You’re pathetic.
And your president is a warmonger and a coward. Seven years as president and he’s still killing innocent people, the poorest of the poor. Don’t forget to include that in his legacy. Take off your rose colored glasses for once.
All I’ll say is I respect and enjoy your posts but this one is the typical response. And that’s because you just don’t get it and probably never will because like most Americans you take the myopic view of the world through your American eyes.
Let’s not leave out Obama please. Seven years into his presidency and we’re still killing innocent people, reigning terror from the skies in six different countries. And no one can answer the “why”.
Much as it pains me to say it, I have to agree. There are some things I wish Obama had done within the first month of his Presidency, political consequences be damned - among them, disengage from Afghanistan with all possible speed. He’d have been open to the charge that he “lost” Afghanistan, but by now, no one would remember, or care.
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There are boats and planes leaving America every day. You could go.
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And we are doing that because it’;s so much fun…right? Not because that country has ASKED us for that assistance to avoid a far more ghastly fate under the Taliban. I am a combat vet and I’ll be blunt: I have very fucking little patience for asshole goody two shoes dip shits like you. Tell us ace…how do you fight a dense concentration asymmetric war and do it collateral death free? How do you do it?
I wish you could see the faces on those men when they realize innocents died in a strike they performed. I’ve seen it. And I see it on my friends faces today…and they killed folks 45 years ago. So did I. And it still makes me sick. Fuck you asshole.
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Oh, ignore him. Everyone else does. He’s an internet warrior that just sits on his ass, spewing hate while doing absolutely nothing to make any real world difference. Narcissism incarnate.
blah blah blah. You can’t run that BS by me. Viet vet Class of '69. Obviously you didn’t learn anything.
You went there stoopid and left stoopid. And you’re still stoopid.
America Love It or Leave It! Fucking Yahoo.
“…how do you fight a dense concentration asymmetric war and do it collateral death free? How do you do it?”
You’re right, RichardinJax, you cannot fight a dense concentration asymmetric war, or any other war, without collateral death. That’s why my answer to the question is YOU DON’T DO IT.
You and Darcy are eloquent defenders of polar opposite stances war veterans often take: either a committed anti-warrior or devoted to the myths of war–chief among them that war is inevitable and sometimes necessary–till the dying breath. It’s a shame that you are at each other’s throats, both traumatized by the same evil structure that enables and creates war, but responding differently.
And you deal with the Taliban, ISIL, and their ilk with what (in lieu of military force) exactly?
Are you asking me, Lestatdelc? I think you are but I don’t see anything that makes that certain.