I visited Cuba in the month before President Obama visited there, and in fact I rented an apartment just down the street from the US embassy. so I have followed this weird story from the moment it came out, and it just gets weirder and weirder.
I tend to believe the Cuban government assertions that they had nothing to do with whatever happened, largely because it seems unlikely that they have some new, secret technology that could cause this effect, and that they have managed to keep completely hidden from the world. And they invited the US to bring in any experts they wanted to investigate.
Still, what the hell?
Doctors treating the U.S. Embassy victims of mysterious, invisible attacks in Cuba
Yes, we donât know whatâs causing the symptoms, but we know theyâre attacks.
Thatâs some fine journalism, right there.
I still think itâs Russia trying to put the brakes on the US re-opening relations with CubaâŚ
One possibility is that the attacks were something else, and the sonic disturbances are more in the way of sympotoms.
I agree, but I also think Tillerson is correct. Cuba is a very small island with an intelligence apparatus that makes it very hard to believe they have no idea what is happening.
It seems that someone is experimenting in Cuba with a new weapon and some in the Cuban government know who they are and what it is.
Iâm certainly no expert on Cuba but itâs my understanding that not too far below the surface are deep philosophical divisions within the Cuban government. Raul representing those who want to âreformâ the government and economy and be more open and those that were Fidel true believers who seek purity in the revolution. The Fidelophiles are the ones meddling in Venezuela.
My speculation is that the Fidelophiles are behind this and Raul, et. al. know who they are but believe for whatever reason (maintain the coalition that keeps them in power?), they are unable to act against those involved.
There was nothing in this for the Cuban government. Fidel is dead and Raul is now the man. Raul is a Castro but not as hardcore as his brother and recognizes the ârevolutionâ has not delivered much for his people. A resumption of economic activities with the USA, despite Raulâs reservations, was the way to go. So he went for it. It makes no sense that heâd sabotage months or talks with the USA after getting what he wanted. So whoâd gain? Russia. Theyâve been trying to regain their position in Cuba but the Castro / Obama deal put the brakes on that. Theyâd gain and the MO is classic Soviet shit.
âItâs the most specific finding to date about physical damage, showing that whatever it was that harmed the Americans, it led to perceptible changes in their brains.â
Are you effing kidding, AP? It shows no such thing unless you a) have done the same exams on US embassy personnel around the world and found no such abnormalities, and more importantly b), have done the same exams on US embassy personnel in Havana before the alleged attacks and found no such abnormalities.
Yes, Iâve been thinking the same thing, wondering if some sort of poison or neurological toxin could be the culprit.
But who would do such a thing?
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So whoâd gain? Russia.
[/quote]I agree with your analysis. Russia would gain in the sense that they would keep the US from establishing a closer relationship with Cuba. There is nothing economically for them to gain from Cuba. And in fact, there are deep resentments in Cuba against the Russians who pulled out and caused great suffering and near starvation when they ceased their economic support.
The Cuban citizens are eager for a stronger relationship with the US, so between this bizarre medical issue, and the Trump administration which is trying to destroy every Obama initiative, the renewed friendship is totally messed up. It does seem interesting that Russian interests and Trumpâs interests seem to coincide, eh?
We have been warned repeatedly about zombie attacks, and we have made assumptions about what that would look like. Now we know that those assumptions were wrong.
Russia, I would imagine. We already know Putinâs administration likes to use poison.
This has got to be the weirdest story in a very weird year.
I wouldnât rule out North Korea.
My money is on Russia or NK experimenting with some new weapon in Cuba with the cooperation of rogue elements in the Cuban Intelligence Directorate.
Youâre thinking itâs some kind of virus that only infects very specific nationalities?
Being facetiously naive there. This is Putinâs calling card. He likes to let you know heâs got ways to mess you up you never even dreamed of.
Not out of the question. After all, thereâs Trumpism.
Kind of out of the question if youâre talking about biology. America doesnât have a specific nationality to work with.
Youâre clearly one of those leftist anti-'Murcans. Itâs all those illegals and dark people who arenât the same nationality as the rest of us. Oh, and the queers.