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Jeb fupped-duck.
No $oup for you!
jw1
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Yep. That one is going to haunt him. That is, if anyone is actually paying attention to⌠Hey look, A SQUIRREL!!!
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No doubt the families of the 4000+ military men & women killed in Iraq and their thousands of maimed and crippled colleagues injured in that stupid war will appreciate Jebâs commitment to his brotherâs war. Moreover, as the Middle East spins further out of control, largely as a result of that war, with thousand more people dying every day, the people of the region will no doubt see as a Jeb a welcome emissary of the Bushâs good fortunes.
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I expect Jebya to say he misunderstood the question, implying that he THOUGHT it meant âbased on what was known at the timeâ ⌠despite being clearly stated otherwise.
So, rather than wishing it understood generally that he suffers from one horrible trait for a POTUS (insanity) Jebya will wish it understood that he suffers from another disastrous problem for a POTUS (adult attention deficit disorder).
Actually, I donât think we blue lib-prog southpaws even have the remotest idea of what Jebya might have been up to with that answer. My OWN Iamnotanoctopus theory is this is yet another example, like with him listing himself as âHispanicâ, of Jebya pandering so freakinâ hard that all the contractions, inconsistencies, logical fallacies and outright nonsense in the world donât matter to him, the polling says thatâs what he has to say so thatâs what he says.
Nor do I believe that in saying these sorts of ridiculously inane things that Jebya is being in the least disingenuous. This is who Jebya is: his life has no meaning outside this ludicrously misconceived idea of his âdestinyâ. When Jebyaâs Poppy was POTUS, Gary Trudeau used to portray Poppy not as an empty suit but as a disembodied fractured-sentence uttering voice emanating from an Imperial Roman centurion helmet. Jebya is yet another empty togaâd offspring of that empty-helmeted Poppya.
Wingers CLAIM to hate Dubya and what he did; I think they lie - I think when they keep raising that stupid âMiss me yet?â line, they really mean THEY miss Dubya, and they want DUBYA back - but not necessarily Jebya, who might not be Dubya enough for them. So, Jebyaâs trying to prove his loyalty to the Bush family code.
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He is from the delusional neo-con school of thought that invasion was correct, and that the occupation was simply bungled. No amount of fact, rational thought, or argument can ever convince a True Believerâ˘.
That even the GOP/conservatives think he is an idiot and insane for saying this, is pretty much all you have to know about his chances of getting the nomination, much less the keys to the Oval Office.
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Yeah. That is really his only option to try and walk this one back.
They disavow his policies today of course, but the one thing they do miss? Winning national elections. I remember thinking that at the time, that allâs they cared about was the winning; it had nothing to do with wanting to enact certain policies, or even preventing certain other polices from being enactedâŚthey just wanted to be on a winning team.
So while they profess to hate Bushâs policies, foreign and domestic, I believe the would vote for any of this yearâs insane clown posse, if they get the winâŚdespite whatever policy they may be professing.
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I donât think he will walk this back. He is trying to strike up the âI am strong and stand by my decisions, come hell or high waterâ stance. I assume because they think unwavering stupidity is a family strength or something.
Whatever the reasonsâŚhe is going to have his hands full dealing with the backlash over saying he would keep Obamaâs EOs on immigration in place, along with several other comments on the same issue that will NOT fly with GOP primary voters. That one is going to cost him much more than saying he would invade Iraq, in the primaries. Its proof positive that Bush cannot be trusted on immigration, and that is the be all and end all for the GOP activists this time around.
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Sorry, John Ellis, but eventually you will have to state whether or not you believe your brother fucked up.
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Iâd say he just answered the question with, âNo.â
Donât get me wrong. I wash;t suggesting that he was going to. But rather that was the only viable course if he was going to.
I think thatâs it for Jeb.
Eventually, he will have to answer the question if the invasion of Iraq was a mistake in hindsight.
Unfortunately, leave it to âliberalâ MSNBC and all the other cable shows to help Jebya clean up his mess with political strategists, operatives and your general punditocracy there to help him minimize this huge fuck-up. Or to paraphase: Apparently this is no big thingy. Now back to Hillaryâs foreign money grabâŚand any other phony and false equivalencies they can think of, including but not limited to more about what Bill Clinton did while he was in office when she was First Lady.
And when did Sam Stein become such a douchebag?
And another one bites the dustâŚ
What do you expect from someone who only does what his Saudi Arabian Royal Masters tell him to do (just like his brother.)
If Hillary, and for that matter the other Republican candidates, donât hammer Bush for these idiotic statements every day for a month, they shouldnât be allowed to practice politics.
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who are these conservatives of whom you speak, that profess to hating Bushâs policies? Mostly what I hear from these people is, âWHAT, ARE YOU STILL BLAMING BUSH?â They desperately do not wish to discuss him. The most criticism I have ever heard from them about Bush, was voiced during the runup to the 2008 election campaign, when they suddenly realized the no-longer-useful Bush was a Big Government big spender and maybe not a ârealâ conservative.
But even that is too far for them now; Obama is at fault for all deficits and the entirety of the US national debt, according to them.
that is easily responded to. âLook, Interviewer, I think the United States should always champion freedom over tyranny. We liberated the people of Iraq from the menace of the dictator Saddam Hussein. Sure, there were some things that could have been done better, but wars can be messy and decisions sometimes have to be made very quickly. Itâs easy for armchair quarterbacks to have 20/20 hindsight. But Iâll never apologize for America fighting the good fight for freedom and democracy.â
(as an aside⌠Pres. Clinton fought a war in Kosovo. It was not an official war, but it sure looked like one. Milosevic was much less of a threat to the US than Saddam. So thereâs a case that can be made, and a precedent to back it up, for waging a war against sovereign nations that pose no immediate threat to the US).
Jeb was asked straight-up, would you do the same thing knowing what you know now. He gave an unequivocal âyesâ. Good luck walking that one back, and good luck defending it.