How many âjournalistsâ are there at Fux, three, four?
Journalistâs at FUX? Thatâs like saying that GOP Congresscritters are honest.
It is an utter mystery why anyone might have thought this was a good idea in the first place. Maybe to get some access to supposedly open-minded Fox watchers? Like, who would that be? Net, and unsurprising, effect is an own goal by the DNC. Not reassuring about their general smarts and readiness to deal with 2020.
Now is when the pundits tut-tut this move and pretend that Fox engages in âjournalism.â They absolutely know that they are purely a propaganda outfit, but will pretend otherwise.
Personally, Iâm so sick of the cable media and those like Perez that keep repeating this nonsense that Faux News, or tRump TV is semi-acceptable or semi-respectable because the caveat is that they still employ some actual âjournalistsâ. This isnât just about the owners and the highest levels there. Thatâs such a phony line since the only reason those âjournalistsâ are there is because it gives the channel some patina or fake veneer of respectability among fellow journalists. The bullshit is that there is no level of fake news that should be allowed. Period.
If they were real journalists with a working ethic theyâd have left that fucking company the minute they learned of years of abuse towards women at that corporation, the amount of lies and propaganda their company is pushing 99.9% of the time on air, and the obvious ways they shill for tRump and the Republican party to the exclusion of all else. FFS, the company conducts spying on their own people. Fuck all these people that defend Faux as a quasi-news organization even in the slightest. They havenât been a news organization for decadesâŚand theyâve only gotten worse as timeâs gone on. Whatâs really bad is that they now groom their watchers with incessant conspiracy theories that are made up out of whole cloth, not unlike infowars. How can any decent or respectable journalist associate themselves with this company without being compromised by their mission to deceive the public? They canât.
Why is there a DNC?
They arenât âjournalistsâ, Tom. They never were. And I, and just about every other Dem, do have problems with them.
If the people at FoxNews were truly journalists, Tom, you wouldnât have gotten the blowback you did by proposing that FoxNews host Dem debates.
And if they were true journalists, Tom, they would have quit FoxNews long ago.
What will Hannity do if he wonât be a âcredentialed journalist?â Will he even allowed to be let inside without a microphone? I guess heâll just have to broadcast from the outside (off property of course) with all the protestors, street people etc
Good for the DNC. Fighting back is the best move.
They just go along with and do the shit the high level folks ask them to do,
The New Yorker story was EXTREMELY damning. Sure, anyone with a functioning brain knows FOX is Murdochâs rag, and Trump is Murdochâs project, but the New Yorker story changed the game. Burying the Stormy story was a blatent, black and white political move. Zero cover. Not even a shred of respectable journalism there and, believe it or not, there are people working for FOX who are journalists. Not the bathering lying idiots (FOX calls them âentertainmentâ), but actual reporters.
FOX news has been #1 for 17 years, but guess what is happening now:
From the Jan. 29, 2019 Forbes:
âWhile MSNBC missed out on an overall win in January, the network nonetheless continued to show strong ratings power, enough to potentially threaten Foxâs 17-year streak. The Rachel Maddow Show finished January in first place, and was the top-rated non-sports show across cable, with a total audience of 3.29 million viewersâthe highest total-viewer delivery in the 9 p.m. time slot in MSNBCâs history.
And Maddow, whose deep coverage of the Russia investigation into the Trump campaign has attracted a large, loyal audience, had impressive coattails: lifting MSNBCâs lineup to first place for each hour from 9 p.m. to midnight.â
The New Yorker story just reinforces this narrative. The Trump propaganda thing is loosing ground. Racheal over Hannity. Rupert is 87 and his son is now CEO and chairman of the board. This is a business. Things change.
Should get interesting.
One thing Perez doesnât understand is that you canât undo Faux News propaganda and their incessant attempts to flip the script on what they like to call âfake newsâ if people with a moral center canât call out what they do as just thatâŚbona fide fake news (excuse the oxymoron). You need to name it and shame it, and then disavow it entirely, ripping it out root and branch by denying them legitimacy over and over again, not just with these stupid debates, but with everything they push onto the American public. They are like cancer and whether its tRump telling them what to say or Faux News telling tRump whatâs whatâŚits all one big scam operation passing as a news organization
It took him the article by Jane Mayer to finally make his decision to pull out of the debates, which Iâm glad he did, but all the signs were already there and the Democratic base was imploring him to do so and he still resisted until that article came out. He hemmed and hawed and still wants to compliment the âreal journalistsâ that are simply underlings to that horrible company.
Journalists who are criticizing Dems for saying no to Fox would be much better served investigating the top levels of Fox and criticizing them for not adhering to the rules and ethics of their chosen profession.
The Democrats donât owe Fox anything, least of all a primary debate.
To blow up debates and campaigns.
It is not only the highest levels of Fox it is all of the MSM highest levels.
Maybe they are afraid of not being on Trumpâs Xmas card list.
Iâm sure Sarah Sanders or Ronna Romney McDaniel would also say they have such respect for CNN reporters ⌠oh except they wouldnât say that! Fox reporters work at Fox. that makes them an issue.
At this point in history, I donât see how anyone can make apologies for the âjournalismâ side of Fox News. If you are an up and coming journalist, there is no way you want a job at Fox. They are not even hiding the fact that is basically State TV for Trump. When Trump has his âexecutive timeâ, heâs watching Fox. When he tweets something that someone else says that he agrees with, itâs because he heard it first on Fox. He is apparently on the phone often with people from Fox. He grants interviews exclusively to Fox personalities. He even invites them up to the podium to speak at his campaign rallies. The New Yorker article only proved what everyone knew was going on the whole time.
Frankly, the thought of Fox even being considered for a Democratic debate is laughable. Even if you point to Wallace, Smith, and other âjournalistsâ employed there, there is no getting around the fact that this is propaganda network disguised as a news organization, designed to either deify Trump and the GOP or demonize Democrats and progressives.