House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NY) said in a letter to Attorney General Bill Barr on Friday that he was wiling to re-open those the discussions.
Quoting from the letter:
Kick me again, Bill. The last time wasn’t hard enough.
Seriously, does he believe they’ll magically come to their senses?
Barr sent two letters back: the letter F and the letter U.
I am sure Barr is going to have a change of heart in this matter, after all these are all reasonable people.
I beginning to think the Dems are acting to appease their voters, but have no heart in it.
Nadler makes sense. Until the House votes out the contempt citation, he should offer Trump henchman Barr an opportunity to hand over the full report. This shows to any reviewing court Nadler is being reasonable.
Nailed it…
If I was a judge reading the eventual brief for injunctive relief, I’d have been tearing my hair out about six “bends over backwards” ago, waiting for nadler to get to the relevant legal arguments.
True, but you have to remember that in this tawdry affair, we are the grown-ups in the room, dealing with petulant, lying brats.
actually, I think Nadler realizes how weak his case is, being that most of the redactions concern either Grand Jury materials or 'sources and methods" classified information and ongoing investigation stuff.
Only the “personal privacy” stuff is stuff that Barr would probably be compelled to hand over fairly quickly.
There is a strong argument that Grand Jury material is not available to Congress in an oversight setting – and I don’t see how Barr himself can be compelled to request that the courts release it to Congress. And both the national security material and ongoing investigation stuff should not be handed over to the committee absent some kind of negotiation regarding their use.
And that’s ignoring any “executive privilege” arguments – in Oversight v Holder, the court held that there was a “deliberate privilege” that was probably constitutionally derived – and the Mueller report is essentially a document detailing Mueller’s deliberative process.
Dotting I’s and crossing T’s, all ahead of making the eventual case to Roberts.
Nadler needs some 'nads.
I disagree. The redactions are, if made in good faith (I know, a big if), entirely reasonable for a release to the public. However, Congress is not the public. The need this material to do their jobs properly. They’ve handled sensitive material appropriately in the past and will do so again in the future. Their case is not weak at all.
Don’t you just love these if-only-the-people-in-charge-were-as-smart-as-me armchair warriors?
Who carp from the safety of the rear-echelon Posting Brigade?
Pathetically trying to project cynical-hipster fierceness, by bashing folks on the front line?
As if anyone who spent decades clawing their way up the greasy pole to become Speaker of the House or Chairman of the Judiciary Committee would be just too timid and naïve to know exactly what they’re doing.
But nothing will ever satisfy The Perpetual Order of Scolds and Nags, will it?
One might almost conclude their very goal is to sow division.
Almost…
Or they are generating a paper trail that may be important in a legal setting.
Objectively we are very much ahead of where we were on March 25, 2019.
Trump knows it more than we do.
- That’s why he cannot release tax returns
- That’s why he cannot release the Full Mueller Report
- That’s why he cannot allow Mueller to testify
- That’s why he cannot allow McGahn to testify
- That’s why he cannot allow Barr to testify
- That’s why he is fighting the release of Deutschebank information
- That’s why he doesn’t want his son to testify what he knows (I know: the snark potential
)
Why would a person do this if he were not horrified out of his mind?
I know…the sleepyheads rule the roost. Right now the venom is on the Right and we are still not awake yet…
Can’t people see that once the general population recognizes that Trump is a crook (see above demonstrations of hiding EVERYTHING) he is DONE?
Good move for Nadler. Trump is itching for a fight that will end in his impeachment. He thinks that is his best hope for re-energizing his base and winning some independents. Nadler has to appear totally open to solving the matter short of having the house hold Barr in contempt. The more they peal the hide off Trump’s ploy the better.
Or other people who oppose that view and revert to name calling and creating division.
Problem is getting people to see that.
I’m not seeing the argument for why members of Congress with security clearances (and I know that might not be Nadler’s committee) couldn’t see the security-redacted stuff.This could be compartmentalized. I don’t think Democrats at large want that exposed, but we want the information known to the House members with oversight on Intelligence matters.
The Grand Jury materials might be another thing,