Discussion: Dems Plan To Use Hicks' Tight-Lipped Testimony In Legal Fight With Trump

Rewrite lede: “Nadler going to the courts in hopes a judge will let him begin impeachment proceedings over the objections of Nancy Pelosi and Donald Trump.”

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That sounds good. But, geez, I hope Nadler knows what he’s doing. The jury’s still out on that, I guess. Giving Hicks the opportunity to play this game behind close doors still seems to have been a bad call.

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Knowing how tight lipped Hicks was going to be, why wasn’t the lawsuit drafted in advance and filed that afternoon?

I understand slow walking, but this is molasses running up hill.

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Great. Mueller, plz?

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Perhaps it was, and Nadler’s statement is intended to disguise the fact, in case Trump’s lawyers might try to use it against them? Filing suit the second Hicks leaves the stand might be… suspicious.

Just speculating.

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Pretty much getting to my wits end with all this shit.

Rachel’s piece on trump’s attack on the scientists at Agriculture pissed me off. Walked right past that building yesterday morning and actually wondered what was going on there.

Kavanaugh clerk going to be a judge in KY, (and the little fucker lives just down the road from me) and oh dear God the article actually says he’s a great guy to have a beer with! FFS!

A friend in DC who works for the American Battle Monument Commission told me they got a call to see if they wanted the EPA building because the EPA has been so gutted they don’t need that building anymore.

Spoke with my congressman this week at a reception, couldn’t really get into it with him as the reception was a non political one with mixed company, but when I had him to myself, I asked him how things were going and he said, “I have grave concerns for our Democracy.”

I haven’t yet lost all my optimism we’ll get through this but damn…we do have to stop griping with each other over the Dem candidates and be prepared to fight like hell no matter who the nominee is.

Our country is worth saving, we have to do it. It’s bad enough I’m feeling about ready to abandon KY when my obligations that hold me here are through, but having to consider moving abroad if the unthinkable happens is not something I really want to do realistically, but damn…I’m just at that age where I don’t want to put up with this shit.

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Here’s the answer: Vote!

Obama used to say, “Don’t boo, vote.” If Barack were running in the current environment of Democratic Qveching, I suspect he would be saying, “Stop whining, Vote!”

There’s the old labor union mantra: “Early to bed, early to rise; Get off your ass and organize”. I know. I know. That’s so much harder than scratching your itch by exercising your twitter finger. As an old Chicagoan, I call BS on all of that.

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Wow, it’s almost like the Dem leadership has a methodical plan to build the case against the Trump Crime Family.

Cue the naysayers…

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Well, I do all those things. I’ve never missed a chance to vote in my life, I volunteer for campaigns and whatever else I can do and I’ve done that for over 2 decades.

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I think you have the Summer, Rep. Nadler, to make some actual progress in such efforts. But after that, things may start getting hotter than anyone anticipates, and not just due to climate change.

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So, Hick’s was actually Nadler’s stalking horse to get to McGahn. Smart!

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They asked her some 155 questions that the DOJ lawyer objected to. It wasn’t because they didn’t see the pattern after 50 or so. They were getting a record of just how abusive executive privilege has become.

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I’d feel better if they filled me in on the details and strategy personally.

Have you been reading my mind?

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You know, I really want to believe that. But after years of the Democrats not fighting I need a little more convincing.

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Is Nadler really this stupid?

The White House claim of "absolute immunity’ is a sham, but its a sham on its own terms. Nadler legitimized the claim by accepting it, and deciding that it should be settled by the courts.

So the fact that Hope Hicks wouldn’t answer questions about where her desk was is completely irrelevant. The claim is “blank immunity about her work in the white house”. They are saying “she would not appear to answer questions about that period” and that she is only there to answer questions about the period before and after her white house work.

When she wouldn’t answer questions about her desk, she was simply working on the rules that NADLER had accepted by allowing a claim of “immunity” to be used in the interview.

Its OVER SIX MONTHS since the Dems knew they were going to take over the House. How much freaking lead time do these bozos need?

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Samantha Bee talks about Hicks a bit at the start of this clip.

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Too bad more in Congress don’t feel the same. GOP just grabbing everything they can before the ship sinks. Democrats too scared of the Republicans to fight back. You should run for Congress. If not that, go to Fancy Farm this summer and yell at Mitch when he makes his annual visit there.

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first off, executive privilege was not claimed.

Secondly, Nadler accepted the validity of the immunity claim by allowing Hicks to get away with not answering questions based on it. When Nadler said “you don’t have to answer questions about your time in the White House today”, he, not Hope Hicks or the White House lawyers, became the problem.

One you accept the premise that Hicks could claim immunity UNTIL the courts decide otherwise, any question you ask, regardless of how innocent, has to result in a refusal to answer.

Because answering a question about that period is a WAIVER OF THE IMMUNITY that you are claiming. And once you start waiving immunity in that fashion you wind up in a less defensible legal position.

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