Discussion: Democratic Socialist Salazar Wins, Overcoming Scrutiny Of Private Life

As a citizen of NY, I’ve always felt the IDC was a mockery of the democratic process (apparently not enough of my fellow NYers felt the same - until now). So it’s excellent news that the most of the IDC has been defeated. They couldn’t have been trusted going forward, regardless of the “deal brokered” by Cuomo and they obviously weren’t actually Democrats.

Too bad Cuomo himself didn’t follow them into defeat.

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That’s a lot of baggage to accumulate before turning 30.

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This is unfortunate. Salazar obviously has some serious issues with the truth and her presence in any governing body is likely to harm both it’s reputation and effectiveness.

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… yeah …no doubt that the conservatives did a deep deep dive to put out a grand buffet of dirt … but at the same time - if there is a momentary pause of objectivity - some of this does raise an eyebrow…

  • we all were disgusted when the GOP candidate in Florida falsely claimed a degree from Miami University of Ohio … and nobody bought any of her lame explanations …
  • we are continuously revolted when uber-wealthy GOP candidates attempt to spin a tale of struggling up from modest humble beginnings - when they in fact were born with a platinum spoon knife & fork in their mouth.

hope Salazar lives up to all of the hopes that others have for her.

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Dilan, 67, was not among the renegade Senate Democrats, but he represented a district that has gone through major changes, with longtime residents being pushed out by rising rents and an influx of mostly white, wealthier newcomers.

Salazar built a grassroots campaign to unseat him on the grounds that he hadn’t done enough to help the poor or stop gentrification.

I don’t live in this district but, not for nothing, there isn’t a lot that Dilan would have been able to do about the hyper gentrification that’s happening in Bklyn. It’s like a freight train with no brake system. While I don’t know what his response was to the low income people in his area, it certainly doesn’t matter now as the residents who live there now (younger White people with money) have no interest in dealing with what he used to represent.

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When are we going to stop using loaded terms like “leftist” for folks who aren’t corporate shills?

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While I am thrilled about the defeat of the IDC traitors, Salazar’s victory is very discouraging. Simply labeling yourself a “progressive” should not create an exemption from basic standards of truth and integrity. Someone who lies about where they were born and whether they graduated from a college is prima facie* unfit for office.

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so Democrats in NY are being ‘punished’ for being too tolerant of Republicans,
and, Republicans in the ‘heartland’ are being punished for not backing Trump.

1860 comes to mind.

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When are we going to stop using loaded terms like “corporate shills” for folks who aren’t leftists?

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She sounds like a doozy of a candidate. Hope she grows up fast. My only beef with this article is the line that “[Salazar] join[s] the ranks of leftist insurgents nationwide who have knocked out mainstream Democrats.” Seems like leftist insurgents fared pretty badly this primary season. Low turnout primaries (Ben Jealous, Ocasio-Cortez) and complex ballots (the double vote in Detroit that led to Jones’ victory till January and Tlaib’s for the next session of Congress) contributed to a handful of victories. It would be hard to call candidates like Stacey Abrams, Andrew Gillum, and Ayanna Pressley insurgents as they have a long history in the party or what you might call the establishment.

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The IDC were not “tolerant” of Republicans. Nor are they the first generation of Democrats to effectively vote with the Republicans in Albany to give the Republicans in the Senate enough votes to have a majority on most issues.

I am personally pleased that in Jackson Heights, we voted out incumbent Senator Jose Peralta. Peralta replaced another Democrat gone scandalously bad, former NYPD officer Hiram Monserrate.

But don’t delude yourself into thinking this was some purity litmus test issue or that the IDC fat cats were some bipartisan heroes.

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But still, better than a colluding fake dem.

I saw that, also, ironically, collusional Dems are “mainstream Democrats”, lol. Accidental truth.

Cuomo’s got an equal mix of baggage and cachet just from his name. Ultimately, while Nixon did pull the race to the left, she just didn’t have enough experience to get enough votes.

All in all, though, I’m pretty happy about the results of the primaries.

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What’s wrong with ‘leftist’? I’m left of center. In some respects, I’m pretty damned far to the left. I’m a leftist. I’m also left-handed. So sign me up for the Sinister Society.

Republicans, in case you didn’t notice in 2016, aren’t about issues. They’re about dominance politics. So if they want to make being a leftist a ding? Own it. Celebrate it. Mock them for being afraid of it. Show them for the impotent little shits they are, and their supporters will abandon them. Even if they never support us, even if the best we can hope for is that they remain no-shows… I’ll take it.

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The problem here is not that Republican are calling anybody leftist, it’s that supposed main-stream Democrats are calling these challengers to the DNC machine leftists and they are absolutely using it as a pejorative meant to conjure up images of Molotov Cocktail throwing radicals and third-world guerillas that many of us were taught to despise while growing up in the 50’s and 60’s.

And they’re not trying to frighten you or me. They’re after the same crowd of sheep that stampeded in 2016.

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About the same time they stop calling radical reactionaries conservatives.

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And you fight it the same way. You own it, and you dare them to engage. You stand up and say ‘That’s right, I’m a leftist. I’m a liberal. I believe in a government that has an obligation to actually do the things the Constitution says it’s supposed to do: provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. What’s your problem with that? You think I’m over-reaching? Great, let’s discuss our policies and our intentions. Let’s discuss things like being aspirational vs being risk-averse. Let’s talk about the difference between recognizing when something is going to play into our opponents’ hands, and when it’s just about being a coward because you care more about keeping your job than doing it. Let’s have that talk.’

And the ones who can come back to that and engage? They’re the ones you work with, build relations with, listen to (even if you don’t do what they think you should, all the time) and screw the rest of them.

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“Overcoming Scrutiny Of Private Life” should read “Despite Repeated Lies About Her Backround”

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