Iâd be careful in establishing the honorable thing to do is resign when confronted with credible accusations of sexual improprieties. Democrats will find it difficult enough retaking Congress. Losing half their caucus to resignations will make the task nigh impossible.
âCompare what happened to Harvey Weinstein, Louis C.K., Mark Halperin â all appropriate consequences. And yet once we start getting into the realm of politicians, well, letâs get the ethics commission into it, and letâs investigate this, you know, and take forever to come up with a conclusion.â
I wish that she hadnât said this.
Due process is a bummer.
Conyersâ seat is a safe Democratic seat. Rice knows she can take the âhigh groundâ on this and still not cause a loss of a seat.
She is not taking the high ground, she is wallowing in mud.
Hence the quotation marks.
There are a great many sexual indiscretions that people could make the case, in our current environment, constitute deplorable, resignation worthy behavior. Independent studies have shown upwards of half of all males at some point engage in sex outside their marriage, i.e. adultery. Iâd be careful about starting a sweep and dragnet that ended up ensnaring a helluva lot of people in districts that werenât as safe as Conyerâs.
SoâŚshe wasnât always able to win her cases in court so NOW she has decided SHE reviewed the allegations, finds them âcredibleâ and he should resign. WTF. NO. We are not going to be judge jury and executioner. Find 10 women that donât know each other that have the same story and weâll chat.
Fair enough.
So Conyers and Franken ⌠when are the Republican accusers going to come forward (besides the ones we already know about).
Though Conyers did admit to it, while due process is important, she also knows (at least I hope that she does) that a future public is going to try to rehabilitate the aforementioned names.
Also, her ethics committee quote and the one about âthe court of public opinionâ will be used against her, should she end up in legal trouble.
sheâs somewhat being holier than thou.
Somewhat??
Sheâs being judge, jury, and executioner all rolled into one sanctimonious ball.
Somehow, I prefer to wait until all the evidence is in.
Conyers seat is safe. They love him in Detroit. He has a large base. This shite about him old news. People need to be made aware that it is open season on vocal and powerful Democraticâs. Especially Progressive and Liberals. There are a couple of articles that they should read:
A Conspiracy Theory about Conspiracy Theorists
This whole smear has Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, Mike Cernovich, and infowars all over it. Stone and even Alex Jones tweeted about the smear several hours before the first story broke.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/360726-stone-appeared-to-know-franken-allegation-was-coming?amp.
The Alt-Right Propaganda Machine is Winning Because Americans Insist on Being Stupid: A Timeline of The Al Franken âScandalâ-https://medium.com/@Erinlank/the-alt-right-propaganda-machine-is-winning-because-americans-insist-on-being-stupid-a-timeline-of-e3bad99a51be.
Make no mistake, the right is fighting a dirty, mud slinging war and the left has barely figured it out yet. The right is conspiring to get its way, not the democratic way. However, donât be disheartened about strong Democratic leaders. Just remember, they must be a huge threat to the right to be attacked and discredited this way.
Iâm going to contact my Democratic senators to let them know many of us outside of Washington understand how the right is undermining democracy. Do they?
Not only is the right fighting dirty, Democrtic leaders are falling in line with it because thy are too stupid to see it. They are willing to capitulate to mudslinging rather than fight for their county because this is what this is. Also, liberals and progressives need to stop this resign nonsense. None of the accusations against Franken have been substantiated. Anyone can make anonymous accusations. Tweeden and the other woman accusers of Frankens have been discredited. There will be more accusers and they will be targeted against the most powerful and influential Dems in office. WAKE UP! Tell your representatives to WAKE UP! There is a pattern. Look at it for what it is. A hit job-smear job. Donât cut off your nose to spite your face. Considering what has been going on in Washington for the last 50 years, the moral high ground these Democratic reps are taking is a joke.
Until they somehow force Trump to submit to an Ethics Investigation they need to STFU!
Exactly
The Republicans are not bound by any such shame .
Roy Moore has proved without a doubt . PERVS-R-US is an a-ok qualification
Typical honorable Democrat falling for the Repug game plan attack fellow Dems while the low life Repugs back up their scum putting party before country.As one Repug said she will hold her nose but will still vote for Moore because she wants her party to win.So what is your response?
My issue with her, is that if she gets into trouble with a future ethics violation, sheâs going to whine about having her day in court and sheâs going to get pissed, when someone runs back this âcourt of public opinionâ quote at her.
âWe are not talking about a court of law here,â she said. âI have spent my entire career, before coming to Washington, as a prosecutor. This is not beyond a reasonable doubt. We donât have any legal standard here. We are talking about the court of public opinion. We are talking about holding men accountable for their actions.â
My issue with her is that she has a clear double standard hereâ-always believe the woman and never believe the man.
Thatâs a star chamber/kangaroo court way of thinking, and itâs singularly un-American.
Many on the Left find it puzzling, discouraging and outrageous the citizens of Alabama would vote Roy Moore into the Senate, knowing what they do now about his past behavior. I do think we owe it to ourselves to be a bit more introspective and philosophically consistent. Being a member of the âHe may be a pervert, but heâs OUR pervert!â club is nothing to be proud of.