Discussion: Dem Rep.: Kushner 'Intentionally Omitted' Meetings With Russians

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Blue-blazered full metal jackass Jared can simply register retroactively as a foreign agent (like Flynn, Manafort) and, voilĂ , problem solved. Best of all, after correcting the record retroactively he will no longer be a bald-faced liar (like Sessions and his father-in-law).

Glad we could clear that up.

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Of course it was intentional. And Manafort is 2 years late registering as a foreign agent. These scum are all complicit (and I’m not using Ivanka’s definition) in Russian collusion.

Get them all out and in the stocks!

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Lock him up!!! Lock him up!!!

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Kinda OT, but a fun read…

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Of course he left the meetings off intentionally. Has there been anyone in the Trump administration who hasn’t either lied to Congress, or lied on whatever government forms they had to fill out to get their particular job?

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“Kushner’s lawyer told the Times supplementary information would be provided to correct the form.”

Little known part of the law that says if you are rich and connected you get the opportunity to provide supplementary information if you get caught straight up lying. Anyone out there still believe we actually live in a democracy? Anyone?

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Rich assh*les like trump and kushner are so contemptuous of law and regulation that I could almost imagine the omission being semi-inadvertent. As in “It’s none of their business who I met with, I’ll just put ‘none’.” Or giving the thing to some sub-assistant to fill out and never telling them what information to put in. That kinda thing is culpable, but it’s not an attempt at concealment because of knowledge of guilt.

The fact that they started the “correction” process the very next day strongly suggests that someone on the investigating side called as soon as they got it and said, “What the…”.

The ironic thing is that (to an extent) the clearance investigators don’t really care what you’ve done, they care whether you’re honest about what you’ve done, because that’s what would expose you to being turned.

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I’d like to know how secretly meeting with the Russian ambassador is ok under any circumstances, if you are politically connected, but especially if you are working for the POETUS.

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“It’s hard to imagine that when you have a form that says you answer completely under penalty of perjury, you don’t omit anything under penalty of perjury, that you omit dozens of meetings with foreign officials, when they specifically ask about that,”

“To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle.” – George Orwell

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I thought that last quote was from Jake Tapper :wink:

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Absolve yourself of that notion in this case, immediately. Kushner was well aware that questions were already being asked about Trump’s ties to Russia when he filled this out. Additionally, and this is kind of the key one for me, but its being ignored…he met with the UAE to discuss setting up the back channel communications directly to Putin that Prince was setting up in Seychelles (This one is bothersome in particular, because, ala Josh’ theory about Sater…Prince is the same sort of problem with the CIA. It staggers belief to think that Prince could have been arranging that level of meeting without the CIA being aware. Hell, it staggers the belief to think that Prince was donating the huge sums he was donating to Trump while under investigation for money laundering in some of the worst parts of the world…but he did)

He absolutely, 100% committed perjury…on purpose…on these forms.Quite frankly it was so blatant, and so wide spread, that even the excuse of “sorry, I forgot” would be laughable.

I suspect, that once they start tracing back, we are going to find Jared had lots of meetings with foreign officials and intelligence agents. They just haven’t revealed/started digging far enough back.

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I have thought for some time that Jared is the big fish the FBI is after. Trump is too stupid to do backchannel deals, but Jared thinks he is smart enough.

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No shit Sherlock, thanks for saying it.

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:musical_note: That’s Jared! :musical_note:

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I don’t think its a matter of a “big fish”. I think its the sheer size of the haul that is shocking people in the know right now. We are all concerned, and have read a great deal about the Russian “hacking” and fake news, and various other ploys to undermine the Presidential election…but the piece that isn’t being reported is they were just as active…if not more so…up and down the ballot.

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OT but somewhat related "The Trump administration announced Friday that it would discontinue former president Barack Obama’s policy of voluntarily disclosing the names of most visitors to the White House complex, citing ‘grave national security risks and privacy concerns’.”

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Yes, and this particular story has a very real possibility of going down a rat hole of “nothing to see here, it just slipped his mind at the time”.

One of the reasons that Woodward and Bernstein were about to break the Watergate story, is they continued to tie the narratives together into the entire tapestry of wrong doing and corruption. Nothing like that is even remotely happening right now, at least with the major media. Its all superficial, one-off stories.

Keep in mind, the Russia connection story WAS a big story at the time Jared filed this form out. It was big enough that mere weeks later, Priebus was going to the FBI to trying to get them to 86 all investigations into Trumpers Russian ties. That’s a pretty BFD.

And it continues the pattern that we have seen in EVERY SINGLE case of Russian connections to a Trumper. Complete denial that any such meeting or communication ever took place, followed by evidence that yes they actually did, and then an attempt to brush it off as inconsequential, usually with the theme that it is entirely normal for White House advisers to secretly meet with Russian intelligence agents. Not one single time have we had one say that “Yes, I met with the Russian in question” when it first comes up.

Also keep in mind the literally, every single person in Trump’s immediate orbit as some sort of senior adviser has now been revealed to have deep contacts, often deep financial contacts, with known Russia operatives and oligarchs in Putin’s orbit. Similar interactions with say, the UK, Germany, France? Nope. Only Russia and always Russia.

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Where is a story about activity in other races?

truth,

the actions of Cambridge Analytica (especially down ballot election-related cooperation with Russia and the hacking of the state election boards) and the Cyprus Bank (tRUmp-related russian mob money laundering and the former VP of Cyprus Bank running the fucking Commerce Department for gawd’s sake) need to be exposed to the light of day

been thinking the last two days, if Hillary was as corrupt as repubes claim (don’t buy it personally), and tRUmp is as embedded with the russian mob as is apparent, the tRUmp voters chose Paulie Walnuts over the infinitely more qualified Tony Soprano

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