Discussion: Dem Candidates Describe Their Own Racial 'Blind Spots'

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Why don’t they ask this type of question to the Republican candidates?

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Because racial injustice isn’t much of a campaign issue for Republicans?

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It’s hard to believe we live in the same country sometimes, but the media certainly does its best to keep us divided.

Anyway, that was a good debate. Glad I watched it. Proud to be a democrat.

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The title says it all:

Democrats are freely talking about systemic racism. Republicans have Donald Trump. (via Vox).

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Should be an issue for the ā€œjournalistsā€ asking the questions. If journalists don’t ask probing questions, a debate is a debate in name only and becomes a joint press appearance.

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Yes, that’s what they are supposed to do, although my expectation of them is set very low these days. When it comes to the response side, my expectations is set even lower – by that I mean even if ā€œjournalistsā€ asked this type of questions in the Republican debates, their debates would still be debates in name only and still be worse than a joint press appearance (I’d call it a shit-show).

Oh, and expect that they’d all say ā€œOne of my best friends is black.ā€

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Except for Carson :slight_smile:

LOL! Oh but he instead said ā€œObama was raised white.ā€ That line is effectively equivalent to ā€œone of my best friendsā€¦ā€

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ā€œYou don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto and to be poor,ā€

Does Sanders think all minorities are poor and live in ghettos? Or that racial injustice only applies to poor people?

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Great that Mr. Lemon asked such a question. Excellent question, excellent to call attention to the issue. I do not know an African American who has not been followed in a store, stopped for Driving While Black or worse, much worse. The greater tragedy is that the Republican base, the tens of thousands of persons who have made the racist demagogic monster Trump the frontrunner, ENDORSE such actions. I concur with Chelsea530–I am SO proud to be a Democrat. As Barney Frank said, ā€œWe’re not perfect but they’re nuts.ā€ And it’s much worse now. ā€œWe’re not perfect but they’re xenophobic, racist, misogynist, homophobic and just plain frightening!ā€

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Well, that was a bad line for sure. I wouldn’t say it was entirely off, given the fact that African Americans suffer from poverty disproportionately. But his line was framed poorly and sure gives an impression that it comes from racial stereotypes of African Americans.

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Both candidates really shone on this part. Both were and are sincere and genuine in my estimation. How people of color reacted, I would of course have to defer to their take-away(s).

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Out of context. Just a moment earlier he had described a fellow Congressman, an African-American, who was reluctant to try to flag down a cab because as a black man the cab drivers would seldom stop for him – an experience many African-Americans of various income levels have experienced. Presumably Bernie does not believe the Congressman was poor or lived in a ghetto. But sure, if you take the ā€œghettoā€ line out of context, you can conclude any sort of malarky you want to conclude.

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Yes, I thought they were both quite thoughtful and eloquent. But I’m not the target audience. It seems like the candidate’s responses went over well with the crowd. Didn’t see what the audience looked like though. I believe Flint is something like 60% African-American, and I’m wondering if that was reflected in the audience, or if it was a much ā€œwhiterā€ crowd.

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Yes, nearly 60%.

http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/2629000

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As a Bernie fan, I realize I’m biased…but for best one-liner of the night I nominate this one:

ā€œWe are, if elected president, going to invest a lot into mental health – and if you watch these Republican debates, you’re going to know why!ā€ Sanders said.

Hillary looked like she got a genuine laugh out of that one. It was fun to see that.

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Ah, wonderful, we have come to the ā€œWhite guiltā€ phase of the campaign. I imagine that accusations of ā€œcultural imperialismā€ will be coming next. Say, did I see Hillary eating SUSHI? She’s not Japanese. What kind of a person would do that? And was Bernie eating pork the other day? He’s a jew, apparently he’s a very bad one. Even more horrifying, he might prefer his cheesesteak with no cheese.

I can see that the next few days will be very trying indeed.

Note to outraged commentators: Please check your snark detectors before commenting.

Mr. Lemon, that is a foolish question!

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Compare this to Hillary’s ā€œframingā€ of Flint’s water crime in an earlyer article today where she asks would what happened in Flint happen to a wealthy, white community. It seems to be the same assumption, but not as directly stated as Bernie’s was. Facts are that powerless, poor people are more likely to suffer all sorts of injustices, including racial; and that whites are awkwardly close to the ā€˜splainin’ line when talking about black problems to blacks. (This is a general condition of outsider-insider ā€œframingā€.)