Discussion: Defending Senate Repeal Effort, Trump Trashes Obamacare

We spent too much money on it.

@feathered_head - well I get that but it’s the same problem. A lot of his low education voters didn’t know he was going to crush their entitlements - he promised to leave Medicaid alone - a bunch of times. So I get that.

It’s just that in general they do not believe us or trust us and they do believe him and trust him. To me this reality-divide is an almost intractable problem. I do not know what will ever solve it.

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Remember keep your doctor, keep your plan?

I have had the same plan since Reagan’s 2nd term. Different doctors, yeah, 'cause certain parts are requiring attention these days that didn’t back then.

It’s true: “if you like your health care plan, you can keep it” was one of the worst, ill-advised campaign promises made by President Obama and has been used to great advantage by the Rightwingers. It’s just another reason I hope the Republicans would pass TrumpCare (with no Dem votes, please). Let them own it already. They won’t be able to blame Obama, Dems, Liberals for it (but of course they’ll try). It will be a disaster and may just pave the way, ironically, for a more universal healthcare strategy going forward.

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I don’t really know if we can solve the divide – but the healthcare bill is so damaging to trump voters, that maybe we can exploit it. The democrats should be cutting ads specific to every state that took the medicaid expansion. Those senators need to be shamed and called out for what they are planning to do to their own – and those ads need to run constantly on FOX.

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Fair enough. We might as well. See what happens - I try really hard not to predict too much, despite how opinionated I am. hahahaha

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If only President Obama had openly bribed Trump like Saudi Arabia, Russia, and China had. We’d be much better off as a country.

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The only way Trump’s LOFO base will ever figure out they were lied to about Medicaid – or anything else – is for them to be personally harmed. These fools lack empathy, but once they see Trump isn’t just harming “the others”, they will be furious.

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Ossoff showed all districts need to be contested. If Trump gets more unpopular – a distinct likelihood – many formerly safe GOP districts and Senate seats will be open for a good Democratic candidate.

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OT, but partly about trash–

Jared Kushner, teenage real estate developer</strike.> hardball opportunist.

Raw sewage, no heat, insect infestations, complaints ignored, lease violations.

No wonder Donald adores him.

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True, but nothing in the ACA required that they do so. As I understand it, there was no mechanism in the ACA for taking doctors or plans away from people.

Semantics, perhaps, but “Lie of the Year?” I think that’s seriously overstating it.

Those noncompliant plans truly sucked, and people were well to be rid of them.

You do not want to get into what I remember pus nuts.

I agree with you. Bu,t here’s my submission, anyway:

Chiselin’ Trump:My story was always a straight story. My story was always the truth.

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I rather think Ossoff showed the need to pick the right battles and to know how to fight.

At present, only 40-50 GOP House seats are potentially in play. The D’s aren’t equipped to go after them all and simultaneously defend the seats they hold.

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A politician promised something that turned out to be 98 percent true instead of 100 percent true. I’d call that way ahead of the average political promise.

This is OT but necessary…

trump wants his walls and to live in fear of the “other”
I wish there were a way I could be assured trump would read this

and then reconsider how he looks at Muslims. Especially the story of the cook in this article.
trump would deport these people. I say, having been in Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan myself, I know the decency of the vast majority of people I ran into in my travels.
Of course trump can’t understand the behavior of these two restaurant owners. It’s well outside anything he has ever considered.
Sad.

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stream of conshitness?

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Another day, another asinine remark from Don the dope.

Wow! Just, wow!

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Avik Roy is a far-right shill who has no concept of what reality is.

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Beat me to it. Thank you.

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