Discussion: Dallas Officer Who Killed Black Man Also Shot A Man In 2017

Who does not instantly see that they are not in their own home when they turn on the light?

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Let me take a shot in the dark: A drunken police officer?

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It’s much, much better than that:

Guyger was on the wrong floor and the door was closed.

“Her key didn’t work in the door,” Steve Eager wrote. “Shooting happened shortly after resident opened his own door.”
[source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/09/amber-guyger-police-officer-named-in-dallas-fatal-shooting-shot-suspect-in-2017-report.html]

I think @dannydorko nailed it.

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I NEVER do …

cause I don’t EVER go the wrong fucking apartment ----

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“They” are already passing a photo around the internet that Jean and Guyger were in a relationship.

God I hate the “theys”, the twist and warp the narrative with why didn’t he comply? Why didn’t he follow orders?

And @tiowally it’s been reported that they were next door neighbors, but she hadn’t met him before, so I’m suspect of the wrong floor story. I do think that she couldn’t get her key to work in Jean’s door and when he opened it, she shot him.

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That’s one per year.

Consistency is good, I guess??

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That was absolutely my first thought…

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I hope this is followed byTPM until we get some facts and reliable conclusions. The conflicting details . . . typical but the outcome, horrible

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Watch how quickly “devout Christian and a talented singer” turns into “radical Muslim and gangbanger” on the RW sites like 4Chan.
When there are incidents like this, I am really surprised that more people aren’t breaking knees instead of taking knees.

It’s embarrassing to admit this, but I need some help here.

Usually, the media is pretty good at telling me why the black man or male black child is deserving of or responsible for the fatal shooting. The reporting has fallen far short of that mark with this killing.

I"ve always been able to figure it out for myself when the media lets me down, but I’m stumped here.

At first, I thought the reason Jean was responsible for his death was simple: when the door opened, he should have been face down on the floor with his fingers laced together on the back of his head (aka the “position of respect”). But I soon realized that he was the one that had to open the door. If he’d done that and then immediately dropped into the position of respect, he would have been guilty of making a threatening movement as he dropped flat on his face.

I then kicked myself for failing to immediately understand that he was killed because he opened the door while black. He should have been lightening his skin, of course. That was working until I remembered that race isn’t and never could be a factor in a police shooting of a black person; the police who shoot unarmed black people are blind to skin color and other features we use to assign racial labels.

The best I have right now is that he should have used the peephole, noticed the officer’s uniform, and then shot himself, but I’d be lying if I said I was satisfied with that answer.

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What he should have done was use the peephole, spot the uniform, and slip his key out under the door and then lay down on the floor with his fingers laced together on the back of his head. So simple. Why don’t people understand the proper way to deal with a cop attempting to force their way into your home for no apparent reason?

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She saw a black man, got scared and shot him. Its gotten hundreds of killer cops off in the past. Why not now?

Sure sounds like someone nipping at the brandy.

What he should have done is not be a black man living in the same apartment building as a white cop. Duh.

She’s being charged with manslaughter.

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I wouldn’t discount that story too quickly. I could just as easily see describing someone who lives in the same apartment building as a “neighbor” and having that get turned into “next-door neighbor” with sloppy rewriting as new outlets rework the story.

Same apartment, wrong floor is a very plausible drunken mistake. Hell, I’ve even done it once sober. Because I’m a highfalutin coastal elite, when my key didn’t work, I thought “what have I done wrong”, and realized my mistake. A “real American” obviously doesn’t go in for that kind of introspection…

There is so much more to this sickening story. This wasn’t an accident and she wasn’t confused about where she was. My money is on the idea that she had some sort of run-in or bad encounter with the victim and she was there to settle a score; and, she was probably drunk or high on illegal drugs. If the facts come out, we’ll find there is a very, very disturbing backstory.

So I understand and I’ve got to believe she was bombed.

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In the 2017 shooting were there any other witnesses to the altercation between suspect Perez, Officer Guyger and her Partner?
The affidavit stating that Perez emerged from his car;
a) Became “combative” with Guyger
b) Wrested away her Taser
c) Perez could not be subdued by two Police Officers
d) Then and only then, after she was disarmed of a non-lethal Taser, he was shot

Lacking other witnesses that were not law enforcement sounds clearly like the Officers Code of Silence and Protection and “We need to get our story straight before the EMTs, the ambulance and the other officers get here…”

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