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Crazy. Insane.
If weâre not careful, those jesus freak clowns will be the death of us all.
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Think of the fetus, developing in the womb, with the promise of his/her whole life ahead. And then itâs born, and finds itself living in Alabama.
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It isnât about women or fetuses. Itâs about government power, and, for the conservative movement, about ending liberalism once and for all times.
This is a great piece â rare in the media â because itâs one of the few that tackle this aspect of the issue. The questions about confidentiality, legal relationships, and especially about the distinction between a fetus (which feels pain) and a grown man (who also feels pain) highlight the odd contortion lawmakers must perform in order to get the âconsent of the governedâ out of the way, so conservative bureaucrats can do whatever they want.
The simpleminded religious folk who provide their âbaseâ support are being played by lawmakers who, at heart, have no other interest in any opinion of the religious community, least of all anything having to do with spirituality or even life itself.
These same lawmakers consider the Pope a fool over climate⌠and commerce⌠and sexuality⌠and torture⌠and warâŚ
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While Republicans are nuts (18 Republicans sponsored the Bill, and 22 out of 24 voted âyesâ on it), it should be noted that 6 Democrats and 1 Independent also voted âYesâ on this Bill. Might be time to consider replacing those Democrats. The other 5 Democrats voted âNoâ.
âYouâre playing theater of the absurdâ
Yeah, well, at least sheâs not doing it in a courtroom like you do.
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In Alabama? Good luck with that. They likely got elected because their constituents couldnât tell the difference between them and their Republican opponent
The picture exemplifies again the debate about old men telling a young woman what she can and canât do with her body. I imagine at some point in the conversation between the lawyer and a young pregnant woman, a bible and eternal damnation will be brought into the conversation.
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And letâs not forget how very unconstitutional this is: the balance between the fetusâ rights and the motherâs rights was already struck in Roe v. Wade. Period. This kabuki theater Alabammy wants to engage in should be challenged and struck down posthaste.
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Someone should tie that guy down and shove the largest fetus doll up his ass sans lube. See how he feels about his nonsense then.
The courts might argue that the ACLU or any other organization representing the rights of the pregnant women would require an actual pregnant woman having her ability to get an abortion blocked, before the case would gain standing. Then itâs a discussion about how long will the Alabama or even federal courts take to get to the matter? Say, 7 - 9 months before itâs on the calendar?
I used to live in Alabama.
I moved out.
Did you know that slugs are just snails without their shells, and minnows are just baby catfish?
I kid you not! These were firmly held beliefs by people working in my cityâs local government.
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Does the fetus understand its right to counsel?
âOk, Billy Blastocyst, if you accept counsel kick once, if you want to waive counsel kick twice.â
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All kinds of organizational issues here.
'Excuse me maâam, Iâd like to confer with my client in private. Iâm going to move my head close to your navel, please stick your fingers in your ears and go lalalala so you donât hear any privileged conversations."
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Itâs insane that the fetus gets a lawyer but the pregnant woman does not.
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I disagree. The process itself is a violation of her constitutional rights to due process if it includes this nonsense about having an advocate/GAL appointed to represent her fetus and fight her right to choose to abort it. The balancing test/analysis is already clearly laid out in Roe and the decision was made: her rights outweigh the fetusâ. To now subject her to a process that pretends to readdress that balancing test violates her rights and damages her in and of itself, and it flies in the face of that decision.
That being said, I suppose weâll just have to see how it plays out. I certainly agree that the wrong court would deliberately drag its feet until she had the baby and then say âoops, looks like itâs all moot now!â
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I knew a guy from Mississippi who went on an on about a new culinary experience he had ⌠he at the root of the turnip greens!
He was stunned that the rest of us eat the turnip and feed the greens to bunny rabbits.
Take heart.
I know people who believe Pat Robertson can steer hurricanes to New Jersey.
Yeah, I wasnât saying I agree with what theyâre doing, but considering the relative conservative nature of the courts in Alabama, or even the federal court district, itâs just another way to push at the boundaries to find out exactly what assinine requirements that can force on any pregnant woman.