Free speech or political correctness… Ted, what about good manners? One could have the decency to not be hateful. Is that a possibility, Ted? That way free speech is not limited and nobody has to be politically correct.
Some may say what I said is BS but I’ve found treating folks with a modicum of decency and respect goes a long way to avoiding dust ups.
“And the modern Democratic party, in a perfect storm, joined with big business to say their commitment to mandatory gay marriage in all 50 states trumps any commitment to the First Amendment,” Cruz said.
(scratching my head) – What?!? “Mandatory gay marriage?” “First Amendment.”
Who, pray tell, is being mandated to marry? And, free speech … nobody’s speech is being curtailed in the least. Are you referencing the shift that is sweeping the nation–both in public opinion and support and our justice system determining the constitutionality of certain laws–as somehow stifling your mouth? – You’re still running off like you have diarrhea of the mouth and thought process, so nobody is shutting you up, dude. We know where you stand on the issue.
"“We saw the ugly face of Islamic terrorism
in my home state of Texas — in Garland, where two jihadists came to
commit murder. Thankfully one police officer helped them meet their
virgins,” Cruz said.//snip//
Earlier in his speech, Cruz mentioned the religious freedom bills in Arkansas and Indiana,
which were both modified after businesses expressed concern that the
bills would permit discrimination against gays and lesbians.
Cruz praised both states for standing up “to defend religious liberty.”
“And the modern Democratic party, in a perfect storm, joined with big
business to say their commitment to mandatory gay marriage in all 50
states trumps any commitment to the First Amendment,” Cruz said."
So Islam ugly and bad…Christianity good and pure and worthy of religious freedom. Got it.
But who has said, among democrat politicians, that gay marriage or any other form of marriage is to be mandatory? And how the hell does marriage trump the 1st amendment?
geebers…looks like Ted dove in the deep end and hit his head.
“And the modern Democratic party…”
Alberta Rafael will be in trouble for using the correct name and not “Democrat party…”
This fascinates me. I can’t wait for the debates. There will be a stage full of morons debating lies and fantasies. And you know not all of them will be able to hold their tempers. Think about it: Will it be who tells the lie first, or who tells it best? And don’t forget the anger and irate attitude when someone has their fantasy attacked.
Don’t try and apply logic here… the Black Hole of Derp will just swallow it whole…
Everybody gets this wrong…
It’s not the yelling “FIRE” that gets them their jollies…
… it’s the carnage and body count of the aftermath, allowing them to stand on top of the bodies screaming “I WAS RIGHT!!!”, that gets their rocks off…
Sociopathic psychopaths, all of 'em…
I know, but applying logic … it’s kinda my thing, ya know? I must admit, though, that doing so ever since 2001 has caused numerous bad headaches.
alcohol fixes that…
I sure do hope Shep Smith and Greta Van Susteren are moderators for the FOX Entertainment debates. Of all the FOX Entertainment employees, these two are the least likely to accept bullshit for responses and have shown a willingness to ask decent follow-up questions.
Actually, no it is not. A person can be held legally responsible for misusing free speech- such as it is illegal to yell “fire” in a crowded theater or slander someone or libel them through the deliberate spreading of misinformation. The fact that some people put into that category the idea that we should not deliberately spread misinformation or use derogatory language about whole groups is outside the law, but it is still our individual responsibility to use our right to free speech properly.
All rights come with responsibilities. The right to print whatever one wants comes with the same responsibilities as free speech does. The right to own a fire arm comes with the responsibility to use it correctly and ensure that others are safe when it is near.
Unfortunately, most people do not like the idea of rights, and instead demand the license to do whatever they want without consequences.
LOL. Right now, I just downed a large Ritter Sport’s Dark Chocolate Hazelnut bar. My drug of choice. I’m heading into my fifties now, so I have to watch it. Dark Chocolate Almonds are my fave, but I’ve been cutting down these last few years.
(Alcohol is a no-no for me as I take heavy-duty stuff for spinal issues Mother Nature saw fit to install. Still painful and slows me down quite a bit, but I am really fortunate to live today than just fifty years ago (at my current age). So sorry to Jim Beam.
Right there with ya on the middle-age medical shit…
Peace and long life to you, sir…
Do yall remember n 1987, when Serrano’s Piss Christ was exhibited at the Stux Gallery in New York and was favorably received. The piece later caused a scandal when it was exhibited in 1989, with detractors, including United States Senators Al D’Amato and Jesse Helms, outraged that Serrano received $15,000 for the work, and $5,000 in 1986 from the taxpayer-funded National Endowment for the Arts. Serrano received death threats and hate mail, and he lost grants due to the controversy. Others alleged that the government funding of Piss Christ violated separation of church and state. The work was vandalized at the National Gallery of Victoria, Australia, and gallery officials reported receiving death threats in response to Piss Christ. See Christians can be assholes too.
I haven’t followed this story very closely, so I may have missed details. Is someone advocating a law that prohibits this type of speech? If not, then there is no first amendment issue. Exercising the right to speech doesn’t eliminate the rights of others. We all still have the right to say “that is really venal. You should be ashamed. People who support you are clearly evil as well.” As long as we don’t legislate it, it’s no violation.
Well if that’s the case, go fuck yourself, Ted.
As if conservatives didn’t like political correctness: they actually LOVE it! Remember their PC reaction when Obama saluted a Marine with a coffee in hand, when a Marine held an umbrella for him, when he put his feet on Oval Office’s desk, when he did not wear a US flag pin on his lapel, when he didn’t attend Germany’s unification anniversary, when he didn’t say “we will prevail” in a speech while Iraq was was ongoing…
What they were doing in Texas with the "Cartoon Contert was nothing if not provocative. At a minimum it put the lives and safety of local police needlessly at risk. Free speach, as with all freedoms has some practical limitations.
The idea of falsely shouting “fire” in a crowded theater arose from the Supreme Court’s 1919 decision in the case Schenck v. United States. The Court ruled unanimously that the First Amendment, though it protects freedom of expression, does not protect dangerous speech. In the decision, Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote that no free speech safeguard would cover someone “falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic.”
You left out their hissy fit when Obama wore a tan suit in August:
There is no end to the evils Obama has visited on America, Oh, and his daughters don’t dress appropriately either.
I wonder what he’d say if they had a contest drawing cartoons ridiculing Jesus?