Discussion: Cruz: It Would Be Unconstitutional To Keep Muslim From Running For Prez

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The truth finally comes out. Cruz is an ISIS or al-Qaeda plant - trained in Yemen, then spirited into the U.S. via Canada. He pretends to be sort of ā€œCubanā€ to lull everyone into a false sense of security. But weā€™re not that easily fooled - just listen to the strident, ā€œAllah is on my sideā€ tone of his bloviations. Thatā€™s always a dead giveaway. So how come he disappears for a few minutes, five times a day? Answer me that one!

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ā€œWe have never seen an administration with such hostility to religious faith. Last year, there was a chaplain in the Air Force up in Alaska who wrote in a blog post the phrase ā€˜There are no atheists in fox holes.ā€™ He was ordered by his supervising officer to take it down. I guess it was deemed insensitive to atheists. I kind of thought it was the job of a chaplain to be insensitive to atheists.ā€

Ted Cruz

Yes, no religious test, please. However, government officials should make it their job to offend the non-religious. Because the Constitution definitely doesn't protect Atheists.
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Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official

This coming from a guy (Carson) who says tax policy should be based on what his God says about tithing, that the government should regulate womenā€™s bodies based on his religious interpretation of life, and that certain people shouldnā€™t be allowed to marry because he thinks certain phrases in the Bible are applicable today while others are not.

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Hypocrisy anyone: ā€œMuslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and thatā€™s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.ā€

How is that different than what Cruz, Huckabee, Carson, and the rest of the dominant GOP players advocate every day??? What a bunch of hogwash.

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Canā€™t fool meā€”that one in the right is only pretending to be a vampire.

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Right?

I was going to write the same thingā€¦

Not acknowledging, irony or hypocrisy is prerequisite to to being a republican.

Not acknowledging, irony or hypocrisy is prerequisite to to being a republican.

Iā€™ve come to the conclusion is that itā€™s not the case that GOPers refuse to acknowledge irony or hypocrisy; itā€™s that they are totally unaware of their existence. Itā€™s like expecting cockroaches to be aware of differential calculus.

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ā€œMy view, listen. The presidentā€™s faith is between him and God. What Iā€™m going to focus on is his public policy record,ā€ Cruz said when asked about Trumpā€™s comments on ā€œIowa Press,ā€ according to the Des Moines Register.

Good point. I think Cruz is a Satanist. Or maybe even, Satan.

Just because Sen Cruz gets ONE THING correct about the Constitution is no reason for applause.

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ā€œMy view, listen. The presidentā€™s faith is between him and God. What Iā€™m going to focus on is his public policy record,ā€

Which is a continuation of the FID/FUD attack against Obama, the whole ā€œhe SAYS heā€™s a christian and I have no reason to doubt him, buttttttā€¦ā€

No applause here, but itā€™s mildly remarkable considering the jaw-dropping statements heā€™s already made. Two possibilities come to mind: 1) Trying to pander by denying the intent of the Establishment Clause is too much even for Ted Cruz, or possibly 2) heā€™s gotten some low-key messages from Harvard and Yale saying if he pushes his luck with the outrageous bullshit any more theyā€™ll yank his diplomas and heā€™ll be a high-school graduate.

Says former dual-citizenship-holder and son of wacky end-times preacher who knows throwing stones might cause unfortunate scrutiny of his life and motives.

Iā€™ve heard people are saying that. Someone should look into it.

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ā€œYou know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am a constitutionalist,ā€

Iā€™m pretty sure that word doesnā€™t mean what you think it doesā€¦

What Iā€™m going to focus on is his public policy record," Cruz said when asked about Trumpā€™s comments on ā€œIowa Press,ā€ according to the Des Moines Register.

Perfect.

Since the man in question (the current President) isnā€™t running, letā€™s do exactly that - focus on the public policy record for those that are running.

Except Al Lewis the man who played Grandpa Munster, was a good man:

ā€œAs an activist, he hosted a politically oriented radio program on WBAI and ran as Green Party candidate for Governor of New York in 1998.ā€

Kinda sorta on the opposite end of the political spectrum from crypto-fascist Ted.

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I see grog blossoms on the schnoz ā€¦

I think the opposite is true. Cruz was an outstanding student in university including being summa cum laude at Harvard Law. Itā€™s not possible to achieve that level of recognition at the nationā€™s most prestigious and arguably best law school without fully knowing and appreciating such things as what the Constitution states. Moreover, Cruz has some experience in appearing before the SCOTUS on constitutional cases, where he was reviewed by third parties as very effective and even compelling. IOW, he has been, not just in the abstract but at a practical level, a qualified expert on the Constitution and with an expertā€™s facility with the related concepts.

Instead, I think his message has nothing to do with the ā€˜state of the lawā€™. I think heā€™s saying that BECAUSE a full belief in the tenets of Islam is antithetical to the Constitution, fully faithful Muslims cannot honestly give Constitutionally-founded oaths to serve in public office.

But of course the same could be said of ANY religious doctrine that conceivably supercedes the Constituiton. Strictly enforced, the Constitution would forbid the taking of oaths BECAUSE it necessarily exposes the presence and extent of religious belief.

This suggests the real objection here: to so-called ā€œConstitutionalismā€. Thatā€™s a big subject, and one that I would be perfectly happy to have Cruz stuck in a permanent chair at some law school arguing for the rest of his life. But itā€™s not, as Cruz implies, the END of the argument; itā€™s just a beginning point.