Discussion: Cruz Disagrees With Pope: The Death Penalty Recognizes 'Preciousness' Of Life

Discussions are underway at Koch Industries right now to sell off Scottie’s body parts and donate the heart to Cruz and the brain to Santorum.

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Unless we’re talking about a comic book super-villain that repeatedly breaks out of prison to kill a few dozen more people before he is locked up again, the death penalty is immoral, ineffective, irreversible, and a giant waste of money and emotional energy.

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There’s a man on Oklahoma’s death row right now whom the governor is anxious to kill. He has the Innocence Project working on his behalf, Sister Helen Prejean and others who contend his original sentencing was tainted and his defense counsel was listless. The case is the best and worst example of how the death penalty is applied.

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There are no words to even touch upon how fucked up it is.

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Classic Orwellian logic: War is Peace…

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“I believe the death penalty is a recognition of the preciousness of human life, that for the most egregious crimes, the ultimate punishment should apply.”

So what then is a fit punishment for those who start wars when hundreds of thousands are killed?

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Very.

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Disagreeable Crooze.

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It seems that you missed the part about a justice system should be about rehabilitation and not revenge.

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Cruz is essentially stating a belief in the infallibility of the criminal justice system. It can never imprison or execute enough innocent people to change his mind.

Meanwhile, at the Innocence Project:

Number of DNA Exonerations – 330
Average Number of Years Served – 14
Number of Real Perpetrators Found – 140

Eddie Joe Lloyd was convicted of a brutal 1984 murder of a sixteen-year-old girl in Detroit, Michigan. While in a hospital receiving treatment for his mental illness, Eddie wrote to police with suggestions on how to solve various murders, including the murder for which he was convicted. Police convinced Eddie that by confessing to the murder and getting arrested, he would help them “smoke out” the real perpetrator. They fed him details that he could not have known and Eddie signed a written confession, giving a tape recorded statement as well.

Eddie was represented during pre-trial by a court-appointed attorney who received $150 for pre-trial preparation and investigation. This attorney gave $50 of this to a convicted felon, who conducted no investigation into Lloyd’s mental state or confession.

This lawyer withdrew from the case eight days before trial and another attorney was appointed but the trial was not postponed. The new trial attorney did not meet with the pre-trial attorney. He did not question the details of the investigation and did not cross-examine the police officer most directly involved in the coerced confession. He called no defense witnesses and gave a five minute closing argument. The attorney lamented in the press that Eddie would not permit an insanity defense, saying, “With a psychiatric plea, we might have had a chance. If he’s not goofy, there’s not a dog in Texas.” Lloyd insisted that, despite his mental illness, he was innocent. The jury deliberated for less than an hour before convicting him of first degree felony murder.

An attorney appointed to file Eddie’s direct appeal did not visit him in prison or raise a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel. Eddie wrote to the court saying his appellate assistance was lacking, and the appellate attorney wrote that Eddie should not be taken seriously because he was “guilty and should die.” All of Eddie’s appeals failed due to lack of effective counsel until he contacted the Innocence Project for assistance in 1995.

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Shorter Cruz: I need to kill that criminal in order to save him.

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Cruz told Politico after the pope’s speech that, “as a policy matter, I do not agree.”

So, policy considerations can defeat religious beliefs when it comes to making laws? Interesting.

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It’s amazing how some folks can get the cheeks of their buttocks to speak words so clearly. Sounds intelligent, but one must consider the source.

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Republican Catholics now see the Pope as just some guy, apparently.

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Even Oceania didn’t have the balls to go with “Death is Life” as a party slogan.

Maybe those Death-Worshippers in Eastasia. But fuck those guys. They’re crazy.

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Do you think the Pope is enjoying showing up the “Pro-Life” people for the hypocrites they are? I’d like to believe that’s the case.

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Nice observation. He should be trolled often with that one.

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There fixed it for him…

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It is so far beyond fucked up that it won’t even see the light from fucked up for millions of years.

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cafeteria Catholic!

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