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Cruz should be the winner. He combines the Tea Party with the Southern Fried Religiosity, both now ingrained in the Republican Party throughout the US, in one candidate. The perfect Teavangelical.
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To those who prefer a tent preacher, perhaps they should look into Jim Jones.
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Trump was the messenger, Cruz is the Beast itself slouching toward Bethlehem to be bore the shit out of us.
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Like one will actually be better than the other in the grand scheme of things. Cruz’s main advantage is that he units the various hard conservative factions together. He is probably more dangerous than Trump really when you get down to his policies as his goal is pretty much to return the US to some mythical time that never was.
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IF, and that’s a big IF, Cruz is a so called great defender of the US Constitution, then he needs to disqualify himself from running for President! He was NOT born in the US and his mother renounced her US Citizenship to become a Canadian. His father illegally entered Canada when the Fascist regime of Batista collapsed and the common people took back their country under Fidel Castro. Cruz’s dad is a fascist and Cruz himself is a fascist.
Cruz…he is a Canadian and if they won’t take him back then deport him to Cuba.
Why aren’t Sheriff Arpaio and Trump demanding to see Teddy boy Cruz’s birth certificate and then claiming it is a forgery? Do they just worry about black’s and birth certificates…what about Curz acting like a white guy - does he just get a pass?
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Cruz: Son of a communist, born in Canada will be the next president of USofA. Only in America.
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Alan Grayson keeps saying he will file a birther lawsuit against RAFAEL Cruz.
What’s he waiting for?
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Didnt know this. I dont think its widely known. If true, this can/should easily take him out among the patriot crowd.
If mother was not a US citizen at time of Cruz’s birth (due to renouncement), how can he be a US citizen?
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That’s incorrect. Cruz’s father joined up with Castro, and was wounded and captured while fighting with the communists against the Bastista regime. He was imprisoned as a result, until such time as his family was able to bribe his way out of prison and into the United States. He then went to Texas.
So, he was a communist, not a fascist. And he didn’t leave Cuba as part of the Batista collapse and go to Canada. He left as a captured communist and went to Texas. Where he maintained his Cuban citizenship for many years, though he did obtain a green card. He met Cruz’s mother there while attending college and they later moved to Canada.
Its true that he was born in Calgary Canada. And his father applied for and received Canadian citizenship. But its unclear whether or not his mother did likewise.
And things get murkier at this point.
There is US case law that indicates that receiving citizenship elsewhere does not necessarily revoke a person’s US citizenship; a person must actively and knowingly revoke their US citizenship for it to be official.
Now, as indicated above, there is no proof that his mother did apply for Canadian citizenship. The documentation either way has not surfaced. BUT…if she did, the oath that is required clearly states that the person renounces any and all allegiances to any other country. That would probably qualify as knowingly revoking her US citizenship. Probably, because its never really been tested in the Courts, to my knowledge.
But…the bigger problem is, that right now until some documentation is furnished, its only speculation that she became a Canadian and was one at the time of his birth. And the Cruz campaign is not answering inquiries or requests for such documentation.
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I sure hope Hillary’s people have a deep oppo-research file on Carnival Cruz. Fucker’s a threat.
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What a choice for the baggers, hey?
One’s a clown, the other a snake…both are obnoxious, self-righteous, blowhole, liars though.
A quick question since you are more knowledgeable on this than most people I have read: Is there any proof that Ted’s mother ever applied to have him recognized as a US citizen through the State Department?
As I understand the case law, if this is not done, if the American parent gave birth anywhere other than US soil (ie an embassy or consulate, military bases are not included in this designation), then the child’s citizenship is that of the nation where the child was born, not the US. In which case, Cruz never had US citizenship to begin with unless his parents filed the necessary paperwork when he was born to have his US citizenship recognized. This was always a sticking point with McCain and his eligibility to be President. It is even murkier with Cruz since his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth, but Canadian or Cuban still. There was a time when children born of one American parent and one Canadian one were granted dual citizenship, but I was under the impression that this was rescinded back before Cruz was born.
Can you shed any light on these types of issues?
In 2013, I noted that his grandstanding was the beginning of a planned run at the White House. Sadly, my prediction was correct. This man is a theocratic fanatic, and a very dangerous man. He give Machiavelli a good name in the way he twists questions to suit his agenda, and most people do not realized they have been lied to until it is too late. He has a vision of America that is directly in line with his Armageddon Gospel philosophy as preached by his fanatic father, with him as the King of Governments. This kind of religious zealotry coupled with his love of corporate money makes for a very dangerous threat to the American people and the American way of life. Sadly, he has developed a game plan that is so far ahead of Democratic strategists and GOP establishment, that by the time any of them actually face up to the reality of this monster instead of drooling over Trump or HRC, he will be sitting in the Oval Office and Armageddon will be on track to end the world if he has his way - and with the entire might of the US military at his command as President, he will make it happen. He is evil incarnate, and he must be stopped from ever reaching the White House. Vote in November without excuse and without fail, Democrats and Independents, because if he is the GOP candidate, our very lives may depend on it.
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Not exactly. Applying for US citizenship definitely helps clarify things from the get go, that’s why most do it. (though in my own case, my parents waited until there were re-stationed to Homestead AFB before doing it for me. I was born in Newfoundland).
The principal is, if the mother (never the father) is a US citizen…lived here for 10 years, and 5 years in a row before going overseas, then so is the child. They may have, depending on the country, dual citizenship status (which is more important to the other country than the US), but they are American if their mother is American. But it is murky, and gets even murkier in Cruz’s case because he was not born on an American military base (unlike McCain, who was…case law tends to treat foreign US military installations as US soil for these reasons…my case is again, a slightly different shade because I was born on a NATO base…not technically a US base).
No it has not been rescinded. If the mother is American, the child is American, period. If the child was born in Canada, then the child is a dual citizen…simply being born in Canada is all they care about, and it lasts until you officially renounce it.
I was “naturalized” to remove any question when we moved to Florida, and further registered for the draft (which is another declaration of allegiance to the US). But as far as Canada is concerned to this day…I am Canadian. (In fact, whenever I show my passport going into Canada, they always ask me if I would like to renounce my US citizenship. I say no, and they smile and politely tell me to have a wonderful time). As far as the US is concerned, however…I am 100% American. The US doesn’t really recognize dual citizenship…as far as we are concerned, if you are American, that’s all that matters. Which is a pretty rare stance in the world. Canada for example, officially sees me as both Canadian and American. American officially only sees me as American.
Supposedly, Cruz went the further step of officially renouncing his Canadian citizenship in 2013. Its not required to run, of course, its just window dressing for the base. I don’t know if he actually followed through, however.
As another weird note…Bachmann had issues with dual citizenship as well. Her husband had dual citizenship with Switzerland, and she applied for similar status herself, as did their children. However, once the news broke on that, she quickly backed out.
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With the likes of Trump and Cruz having a chance to win the presidency, I think you are really fortunate to have the option of living in Canada in the event that either succeeds!
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Fine. As long as it’s not someone actually electable.
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Trump is going to get morronga’d.
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This is a nationwide poll and should not be compared to a NH or Iowa primary poll.
I live in rural northwest Georgia, deep in the heart of true Southern Republicanism. My town is NOT a suburb of Atlanta. Even the folks I work with here - almost everyone of them a die-hard Republican (but what can I say, a lot of them are my friends and I like them, despite their politics confusing the heck out of me). Almost all of them will tell you that, while they would certainly vote for Cruz over Clinton, they don’t particularly care for him and think he’d lose in the general election.
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