Discussion for article #233381
“the right to teach and practice a religious faith”
The fundamental brain damage at issue: these religious nutjobs confuse the word and concept of “teaching” their belief systems with “forcing you to live by it.”
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Apparantly “practicing” their religion equates to imposing their religion.
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BooHoo nutjobs. Just because you can’t control your members through the power of the pulpit you want special laws and exemptions. Perhaps the masses would be easier to control if your preaching actually made sense for the 21 century. Just guessing.
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“This decision says that the church is no longer free to practice what we preach.”
BS.
Churches should have their tax-exempt status lifted.
ALL churches.
The RW has used/abused the privilege and should feel the sting in their Pro$peritarian PocketBooks…
where the book of Midas has replaced Jesus’ teachings of care and compassion.
AaaaMen
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The Church is still allowed to preach any nonsense they choose, Because of this ruling, they can’t FORCE people to abide them, which is a good thing.
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“This decision says that the church is no longer free to practice what we preach.”
The opening salvo in the victimhood fusillade.
As if birth control was mandated by the government.
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Exactly. If they don’t like it, they shouldn’t use it.
Sadly, all of us would benefit by them not bringing more ignorant children into the world.
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Your taxes pay for wars Jesus would loathe, too, people.
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You said exactly what I’ve been thinking! Religion IS a matter of control. I have many Catholic friends, and there is not one of them that didn’t use birth control devices/pills to limit the number of children they had. And now the Catholic and certain evangelical organizations want the government to impose THEIR, not ITS will, on their congregants? Too, too stupid, and subject to failure.
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I believe I read that Catholic women have a slightly higher rate of birth control use than all American women.
Chris Matthews always points out that when he was growing up Catholic families typically had five or more children, yet you almost never see but maybe one or two big, Catholic families in Catholic churches these days. That’s because they’re all using birth control. And that’s nothing new. I had a client who is Catholic and was very angry about the objection to birth control. She was in her 70’s or 80’s and told me that after she’d had her fourth boy in four years, one of the sisters at her church came to her and talked to her about getting on the pill. She said the nun told her that it didn’t make sense for her to lose her mind and continue causing harm to her body by continuing to have children she didn’t want, need, or could afford to take care of.
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Government is a matter of control. Government is THE matter of control.
If the government wants people to have birth control, then government should provide it without requiring any action from said religious institution. It’s not a hard concept.
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The Catholic Bishops also seem to be not too successful with their message since most data shows that that apx eighty percent of Catholics have used contraceptives at some time in their adult lives.
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I grew up Catholic and went to Catholic schools for a few years as a kid. A good buddy of mine was one of nine children, two other classmates were one of 13 and 17, respectively, which was not uncommon in those days.
Even though my buddy’s dad made good money as a manager at a factory, they always lived close to the edge. It was always mealtime, always laundry day, always a sink full of dirty dishes, always a pileup for the bathroom, and always hectic for the stay-at-home mom.
The mom of nine kids told me once that after six children she asked her priest about birth control – this was several years after the Pill. He told her not to do it; that “God would provide.”
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[quote] “Such a ruling should cause deep concern for anyone who cares about any First Amendment rights, especially the right to teach and practice a religious faith,” [/quote] Show does this translate to you forcing YOUR ridiculous, self-proclaimed religious rules onto me and my family?
Si I can now force MINE onto YOU, under MY 1st Amendment RIghts??
- Don’t beat your ni**ers on Sundays.
( Yeah, I know that’s gonna really hurt. )
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If they win all these cases, then they will want their own special money, that can’t be used to pay for contraception. Or they will try to outlaw contraception.
And for the record, this year is the 50th anniversary of Griswold vs. Connecticut.
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“Such a ruling should cause deep concern for anyone who cares about any First Amendment rights, especially the right to teach and practice a religious faith,” Pittsburgh Bishop David Zubik said in a statement. “This decision says that the church is no longer free to practice what we preach.”
What horseshit. You can abstain from the use of birth control all you want. But you don’t get to play doctor and decide what legal healthcare your employees are entitled to receive.
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Well, admittedly, that has been something of a constant in Catholicism.
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Until we no longer rely on employer-provided healthcare, you’re just going to have to deal with the government regulating how it’s done. In this case, they’re essentially requiring that health insurance cover ALL bodily systems, including the ones that religious folks think are icky.
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I was one of five. My father’s siblings produced families of 3, 7, 9, 9, and 10. Some of my aunts just refused to have sex after a while. I just can’t think that makes for a happy family.
My mother’s cousin (she didn’t have siblings) had 11. Yes, the father of 11 had a very nice aerospace job, but 1 paycheck divvied up 13 ways is stretched pretty thin. When the Vatican pronouncement on the subject came down, a little research showed that the majority of priests tasked with investigating birth control felt that it was OK theologically speaking. Worked for me even if it wasn’t the official conclusion. Eventually (in my 40s) I just outgrew the whole religion thing entirely.
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