Nice report, Alice!
Oh thatâs alright.
Trump and the Republicans plan to let the middle class pay for that too. #wheresmyraise
They arenât really experimenting. They are still doing all they can to kill Obamacare, this was just another, fairly large step, in that process.
But, as opposed to rest of the tax bill, this, combined with the CSR elimination, are things that are inflicting pain on votersâŚright now. And they will continue to feel this pain throughout next year. And these are the reasons why healthcare is showing up as the #1 concern in VA and AL elections.
If at least one million people arenât dead by this time next year Ryan and McConnell are going to be angry
Oh, Ryan isnât done trying. He will aim his sights on Medicaid, Medicare (even bigger cuts for both, on top of what was done in the tax bill YeahâŚthey cut both in the tax bill), the Obamacare subsidies, as well as SSIâŚhis own personal holy grail.
In fact, he has already started. After the multi trillion dollar tax cut, he is already arguing that to keep CHIPs funded, they have to take the money from other Obamacare programs becauseâŚthere just any money anywhere else.
Letâs call it what it is murder by greed.
This article misses the point entirely. Rich people got tax breaks! Thatâs what it is all about. And if a million or two, or three or four, have to lose their health insurance, so be it. The price of ⌠something.
Well the Supreme Court, of all people, showed the right way to fix this problem, when it upheld the mandate by calling it a tax. So just make it a damn tax already! We already have a much bigger, longer experiment called Medicaid, and guess what: hardly anyone signs up proactively. Not even when itâs free. Hospitals and clinics hire people to sign up every uninsured but eligible person who arrives for services, be they mothers in labor, children, people whoâve been injured or people whose chronic health problems have gone unaddressed far too long, building up to an emergency.
So instead of a tax penalty to punish people for failure to get insurance, make it a straightforward tax that everyone owes because of our shared humanity and mutual presence within these borders. Something like 1% of all income, regardless of source, across the board, would go a long way towards funding cost effective, proactive health care for everyone who canât sell their labor for group health insurance.
âWeâ the people!
Fuck the rest of you loosers!
I would think that answers to the questions posed should come fairly rapidly. Itâs full blown flu/strep throat/pneumonia season here in the Houston area. Doctorsâ offices are swamped.
It is murder by economics.
Weâre heading back to that fun game
Live or Bankruptcy . You roll the dice
I have a reasonably good HMO through my employer.
I had to go to the emergency room Christmas day as all the quick clinics were closed.
After a $100 deductible my share of the visit was somewhere near $1200 as I had the misfortune of being healthy the rest of the year and had not met my deductible.
Not a deal breaker for me as I can afford it. But for someone living paycheck to paycheck?
Make your choice.
They did a blood test and an Ultrasound and a Cat scan on my leg. You know that bill is going to be north of $25,000.00
If you had no insurance , too bad, so sad
Only one word for the choices they are leaving people
Criminal
Ya go give a tax break to Multi Millionaires and buy a few more F-35âs
We donât mind
- The article aims to assess the likely consequences of the tax overhaul. It doesnât pretend to assess the motivations.
- A political act often has more than one âpointâ and is thus not âall aboutâ one thing. Yes, the rich making themselves richer is a big driver, but itâs also important electorally to dole out conspicuous pain to those hated by the base. Thatâs what keeps the 'gelicals, e.g., interested.
I guess you missed the irony emoji.
Being rational is far too difficult for the GOPer crowd. Their drive is short term and direct. Let me put it in visual terms with trump as the model:
If it wipes that fucking smirk off of Ryanâs face, I am good with it.
And they can write off their private jets.
Or⌠I donât know⌠tax the people who own everything in this country⌠you know the rich! What ever happened to the idea of a PROGRESSIVE tax system?
Itâs downright amazing how those âoh so liberalâ Democrats fundamentally just donât get it. I know several people(myself included now) who have been laid off in the past two-three months who thanks to being thrown back into the freelance market (that wonderful âgig economyâ) can not afford insurance while we rebuild our lives. As we work freelance now we make too much to qualify for a subsidy, but not enough to actually cover these outrageous insurance cost that the âliberalâ democrats are forcing us to buy or pay a poor tax.
So we end up having to move to cheaper crappier places in worse parts of town just to afford insurance. Or to the suburbs where we have to increase our transportation costs and loose even more of our day to traffic. Either way unlike in EVERY OTHER MAJOR COUNTRY the âLiberalâ Democrats here still demanded we take a major step down in our quality of life just to have basic health care if you loose a job or change a career.
And WHY did the âliberalâ party force my friends to pay this poor tax? All to keep a system in place thats main goal is not to give us good healthcare, but insure wall street investors receive 7%-20% a month from our insurance cost so they can buy their kids a mansion. THIS is why people say âboth parties are the sameâ, because the Dems donât give a shit about them over wall street either. I hope the Dem party burns as I move out of my home for insurance while I rebuild a business.
Absolutely. Here in Seattle norovirus is breaking out everywhere. Again. Concentrated in assisted care facilities senior citizens have to be isolated or taken to the hospital. Itâs also coming from restaurants and airports. Washington state recognizes the importance of medicade and sign many people up for it free all the time.
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Norovirus-outbreak-sickens-39-in-Tacoma-senior-12457018.php
Because it really isnât greed. From an economic perspective, itâs about assfucking the providersâthe hospitals, physician and allied health practicesâin furtherance of their hard, rigid Randian Bircher dogmatic ideology, with an added 10,000 rem dose of blinding stupid on the side.
The oligarchs arenât saving a dime by doing this, at least not directly. Theyâre doing this because they fear, above all, the idea of people forming any kind of relationship with government that causes them to view government as force for good and as a potential ally against the Koch, Walton, DeVos, Mercer and other crime families seeking to reduce the nation to neofeudal warlordism. And, of course, the very idea of regular people being freed from the need to hold down a corporate job to keep the kids insured so they can take entrepreneurial risks that might result in horrible, horrible competitionâif only wage competitionâis anathema to them.
Ideally, they want the government so weak and small and subservient that all it does is provide the Peacekeepers to gun down any serfs who get uppity. But if they canât have that, theyâll take poisoning the relationship over and over again by making people view government as fickle and capricious, taking things away from them after they have them, making putting any kind of faith in government a risk.
And if the healthcare industry people who dared defect from the oligarch line take a hit in the bottom line, have to jack up costs more to cover the losses and have to return to the days of suing the uninsured into bankruptcy, thatâs all to the good as well. Teaches the treacherous bastards on both sides an important lesson about who holds the whip and who gets tied to the post.
make it a straightforward tax that everyone owes because of our shared humanityâŚ
The Koch brothers, Robert Mercer, and the rest of the Republican Party completely reject any notion of âshared humanity.â Their philosophy is nothing less than âIâve got mine, so fuck you.â
âTheyâre doing this because they fear, above all, the idea of people forming any kind of relationship with government that causes them to view government as force for good and as a potential ally against the Koch, Walton, DeVos, Mercer and other crime families seeking to reduce the nation to neofeudal warlordism.â
Perfectly stated.
Eventually the Democratic Party is going to have to directly acknowledge the ideological struggle that you allude to. The central animating principle of the Republican Party since 1980 has been the demonization of the very concept of government at every level, and Dems rarely issue an unapologetic and aggressive defense of government, much less mount an aggressive attack on the parasitic Grover Norquists selling their snake oil.
I wish HRC had kicked off her 2016 campaign in Kansas to highlight the inevitably disastrous consequences of Kochism. The vast majority of American citizens have no clue what kind of clusterfuck that Kochism has created in Kansas, and itâs the same clusterfuck that Ryan and the Koch bros want to inflict on the rest of the country.