No. Absolutely not. “philosophic dexterity” is way out of bounds. I can’t abide that descriptor.
Red card. Just shut up, and leave and don’t come back.
When there is this much confusion, I don’t see how they can get anything done.
They will pass it, by the skin of their teeth, I predict. And then it’s home to the voters next week to take a victory lap. Or not. I predict the “or not.”
The Maine example is so poor, it is a joke and dishonest that they keep using it. The fact is, if they want to go after this model, it needs quite a bit more money to cover people.
Everybody needs to calm down.
The House has voted to “repeal” the ACA over 60 times already, and it never even came up for a vote in the Senate.
The Republicans have a NARROW majority in the Senate now, but nowhere NEAR enough votes to pass this steaming pile of shit.
Congressmen in heavily gerrymandered districts in deep red states can get away with voting for this, but Senators?
No Fucking Way.
This is just another “symbolic” vote by the House to fuck over everyone they can and sooth the fragile ego of Hair Furor.
You’re right, of course, but that’s not the point. The point is that he can say he WON!
“I can take the numbers we had before and add from there,” he said. I have two points in reply: 1) No Republicans seem to be able to “add from there” and 2) The numbers they had before weren’t real. This isn’t a winning strategy.
Trump has “been all over this like a dog on a bone.”
And there it is. All about hurt feelings.
Hmmm, I would prefer “Trump has been all over this like stink on shit.”
Much more appropriate.
It’s clear by now that despite claims to the contrary Trump has one go-to set of dealmaking moves:
- Bluster
- Bully
- Bluff
Call his bluff and he folds like a cheap suit.
Cowards. The GOP House can’t, after 7 years and how many tries, pass a coherent bill to make healthcare better for their constituents so they piece together a junk nonsense bill just to dump it on the lap of the Senate. Sorry Ryan, you and your caucus shit the bed, tossing the sheets under the mattress doesn’t solve the problem.
This will most certainly die in the Senate. Two issues haven’t really been discussed with this execrable piece of non-legislation:
What happens to hospital funding?
If a State gets a waiver on preexisting conditions, what happens to employer sponsored health plans in that State?
However, the fact that the Rethug House is so craven and deplorable that they would pass this piece of sh*t anyway is beyond belief. At this point, I can’t see the Dems not being able to flip the House next year. Senate’s a different story but the House should be doable.
@carolson He can say he won over the House. He can’t say that he “won” unless the Senate passes it. And that’s a non starter.
By the time they are done screwing around with the health insurance system in the uSA, it will cost twice as much as the ACA, insure 30-60 million less people than the ACA, cover nothing and will say “we repealed and replaced the black guys plan”
Wow, I certainly can’t wait for that!
philosophic dexterity
In fairness, Mark Sanford learned what that meant while hiking the Appalachian Trail in Argentina.
Really. “Lurch” in the headline sets the tone for the inability of the Rs to get repeal or replace or whatever done. They have a lot of recesses coming up, July 4th, the whole month of August, the holidays including Thanksgiving and Christmas, next year is mid-terms where they won’t open their mouths in case it should lead to unemployment, but they have to say something when a mic or camera is trained on them.
Aetna out of Virginia market, citing both financial losses but also “uncertain outlook for the individual marketplace.”
— Dan Diamond (@ddiamond) May 3, 2017
The Rethugs own this lock, stock and barrel. News like this isn’t going to make their House members look really good.
“Some lawmakers wondered aloud if the vote would happen Thursday or Friday, while others floated the possibility it could move late Wednesday night.”
The Freedum Caucus floats this; the Tuesday Groupies float that; House “leadership” floats a timetable.
One floater after another…
It’s the Caddyshack Congress.
I don’t think that’s the back story here. I think the “plan” that the WH is trying to sell the “not so crazy” Republican caucus members is this: Get a bill out of the House and to the Senate. In the Senate, the bill will be fixed to eliminate the “crazy caucus” provisions, and basically just change the structure of the ACA’s subsidy mechanisms. Then, we (the WH) will jam the Senate bill down the House’s throats.
Now, this might not work, especially if the “not so crazy” Republican members get jammed by their constituents today and tomorrow, but from a political strategy standpoint, it’s far from crazy-- and has been used many times in the past.
Is that true? I could have sworn Obama vetoed a bunch of them.
In fact, yeah; go to Google and search Obama vetoes ACA repeal
If they got to his desk then the Senate voted for them.