Discussion: Colo. Board Of Ed Member: U.S. Voluntarily Ended Slavery

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Many of the people who died ending slavery were draftees, not volunteers in that “voluntary” effort.

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Let me read between the lines. Don’t “you people” have enough already???

Also, re: “voluntary” Sure I’ll go along with that. And the civil “war” was just a very realistic re-enactment of what ending slavery MIGHT have looked like if not for the kind voluntary nature of the southern states. Also, the post civil war era civil rights abuses were just a further demonstration of what a non-voluntary racial integration MIGHT HAVE looked like.

This. Lady. Is. A. Moron.

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Given the level of “intellectual” thought this board member displays, I’m going full-Godwin immediately:

Yes, we voluntarily ended slavery and the Nazis voluntarily closed the death camps once their supply lines were cut.

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Then why did eleven states leave the nation (and start range wars in the new territories), and then fight a pointless and strategically hopeless war, to retain slavery, you fracking imbecile?

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Did she say the north is “exceptional:” and the south is just “ordinary”?

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Yeah. That’s what we’re talking about, right there. Noble white southerners gave it up voluntarily despite all those troops the Yankees sent down to try to reimpose it at gunpoint.

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If she’s so concerned about the course, she should take it.

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Is she really that dumb? I think I know the answer.

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Hmmmmm…seems to me that eleven slave states weren’t too keen on ‘volunteering’ to end slavery. Seems they needed a bit of persuasion.

What a f*cking moron that woman is. The underlying gist of such a comment is: “WE freed THOSE PEOPLE…what more do THOSE PEOPLE want?”

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And look at all the free, uninhabited land we gave to poor immigrants in Oklahoma. It was the nicest thing the US had ever done. It was so cool the Native Americans had left the area and moved on.

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Furthermore, those noble southerners voluntarily gave up slavery “at great sacrifice” of personal property!

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“Yes, we practiced slavery. But we also ended it voluntarily, at great sacrifice, while the practice continues in many countries still today!”

Wait, what?

  1. In what sense was emancipation “voluntary”? The slaveholding South seceded from the Union and started a war in order to NOT give up slavery. So, the slaveholders themselves didn’t give it up “voluntarily,” they had to be forced, more or less at gun point, to end the practice.

  2. What would “involuntary” emancipation look like? I mean, technically, ALL of the nations in the Americas that practiced slavery (e.g. France, England, Spain, etc), all abolished the practice voluntarily (most before the US ended it). Would it be “involuntary” emancipation if another country invaded the US and forced the US to end slavery?

  3. Legal slavery has been abolished in all countries (correct me if I’m wrong). It may still be “practiced,” but it has been made illegal everywhere, just like in the United States.

And the new AP guidelines have students examine exactly that “great sacrifice” and the process of emancipation, so why does she think students won’t learn about that?

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The description of “voluntary, at great sacrifice” is contradictory at best and a grotesque attempt to rewrite history. The loss of 600,000 lives is hardly “voluntary.”

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Today a bag of hammers read her Facebook posting, and it’s feeling pretty darn exceptional.

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You mean voluntarily at the point of a gun don’t you?

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The bagger runs deep in this one.

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If the killing of millions of people in a civil war is called voluntary then I give her credit for saying it. Yes, it took only a country divided against itself in a civil war to get people to voluntarily end slavery, and today nobody waves the confederate flag over state capitals.

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In fact, that’s exactly the kind of history people like her would prefer if they have their way.

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How did we let these fucking morons into our schools…the answer is simple, people who know better were too apathetic or consumed with their facebook walls to bother to run for the school board allowing train loads of nasty, stupid, bigoted turds to run and win the seats.

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