Discussion: Collins: I Haven't Decided Whether I'll Vote For Tax Bill With O'Care Provision

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Sure sounds like she’s asking McConnell to buy her off with something.

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“But I will with a promised $1.5 trillion hole in the deficit and immediate cuts to Medicare. Plus grad students can go f*ck themselves. I’ll vote for that,” the overrated senator from Maine later added.

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“I haven’t reached that conclusion yet, because I think there are going to be future changes,” Collins said on ABC News’ “This Week.”

she needs to go independent.

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While the ACA individual mandate provision repeal is an abomination, this so called tax cut bill has huge problems beyond that. Such as punishing students and middle class folk, people who live in blue states, etc., just to throw more money at billionaires and corporations who already have more than they know what to do with.

This bill will not raise GDP nor generate job growth. I would hope Senator Collins would reject it on that basis as well.

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I sure hope wherever you are hoping Mitch will give you for selling out your country is worth it.

Hint: it won’t be.

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Then you are a fraud.

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Sue Collins was in the drink line ahead of me last night at the Elton John concert in Bangor Maine. I thanked her for standing strong on the healthcare bill, and said I hoped she could be as courageous on the tax bill. She really is out all the time with her constituents, and always gracious if you talk to her. She isn’t beholden to donors, but I’m sure she wants to vote for tax cuts. I think she could go either way on this one. She was much more strongly against the healthcare bill from the start. I am not as hopeful on this one.

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You went one word too far in that sentence.

She needs to go.

Full stop.

Has anyone figured out yet how badly Maine will be screwed by this abomination? (I mean the tax bill, not Collins.)

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Nice you had a chance to speak to her one on one, but if I were you I wouldn’t freak out because she seems to be wobbly in a 30-second interview. Wobbly, for whatever reason, seems to be in her nature, and that’s unfortunate, but maybe she fears the Turtle or somebody else in Senate leadership. Just sayin’.

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What does any of that rant have to do with Collins and her being wobbly on this POS bill?

Throw them all out, everyone one, and especially if they’re not a pillar of strength and conviction in a 30-second interview.

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and who is her replacement?

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It’s not what she said in the interview that worries me, it’s just watching her for almost 30 years and knowing her patterns. She is often wishy washy like she was in this morning’s interview when she is going to tow the party line. She is more forthright like she was in the healthcare debate from the start when she is going to vote against leadership. I think the mandate repeal is the only thing stopping her (and Murkowski) from voting for this awful bill. Once that is removed, they will likely tow the line. And it is probably an easy fix for leadership to remove it. This also allows Murkowski and Collins to say they stood on principle to improve the bill, ignoring how wretched the rest of it is.

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It’s her personal Sophie’s Choice: fiscal responsibility and basic humanity vs. party loyalty. Nobody knew tax policy could be so complicated.

@inversion Paul LePage?

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Call me an optimist (and honestly I can afford to be because I live in a blue state), but the contents of this bill at least as much of it that has been described in other reporting are nothing less than disgusting and have been admitted to by those who put it together. It’s going to make the rich richer, and the middle class poorer, in a nutshell. Why she or any senator wouldn’t just come out a la Ron Johnson and say I’m voting no is puzzling. It’s unfortunate she’s chosen wishy-washy to define her career, but I do believe there’s always the threat of retribution for senate R leadership hanging over the mavericky ones.

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It’s quite bad for Maine. Can’t find a specific table with numbers, but we have high state taxes and high property taxes so no SALT is a killer for us.

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The Mainers found Angus King. He isn’t my cup of tea, but he’s a damned sight better than Collins.

Seriously? Collins is an enabler. She’s established that (unlike her apparent role model, Charlie Brown) there are limits she won’t go past. But it’s unclear what those limits are – she was unwilling to pull the trigger the GOP put at the ACA’s head. Okay, that’s good. But now she’s saying, “Oooh, I don’t like adding dropping the individual mandate from the ACA, but I’ll figure out how I’m going to vote later.”

No decent Senator of any party should vote in favor of this abomination, but at least 45 GOPers will. It’s past time for Collins to go.

By the way, it’s past time for Rob Portman to go, too. But it will be five years before we get to try to unseat the rat bastard again.

Someone ought to point that out to Senator Collins.

Of course there is. But there comes a time when leaders have to stand up, and you know, lead. The question is, which is more important: her seat in the Senate or the well-being of the citizens of the state she represents. And note that losing her seat in the Senate would not be a foregone conclusion.

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while the potential for unintentional comedy will be tremendous, ‘Senator LePage’ is going to be rough on folks sanity.

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I can verify that it will be bad news for Maine. The property tax rate for our house there is about the same as our house in a fairly wealthy town in MA. Sales tax and income tax in Maine is also high. Very high tax burden in Maine.

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