Discussion: CNN Host To Kasich: It Seems Desperate To Compare Trump To The Nazis

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It seems short sighted and evil to NOT notice the similarities.

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It’s always extreme and desperate to compare anything to the Nazi’s. The Nazi’s were the superlative bad people. Perhaps Genghis Khan is up there with them but nothing else is. I think we worked this out in the early days of the internet. Comparison to Hitler and Nazi is inane.

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It seems desperate to pretend that your video calling your opponent a nazi wasn’t actually intended to call your opponent a nazi.

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“The Nazis killed 12 million people,” Tapper said. “It seems a little extreme…”

If you compare the end results and the processes, then it necessarily seems extreme because you are comparing apples and oranges. That’s not the right comparison and therefore meaningless.

But if you take a look at the same elements of the two, the processes of the two (because Trump doesn’t have any end results, that’s the only and fair comparison), i.e., how they incite people for their political purposes, what language codes they exhibit, how their discourses are structured, etc, then you’ should see ominous similarities.

Conclusion: Tapper is an idiot. Not that we don’t know that, but I feel I gotta repeat.

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When’s the last time the media called anyone out for Obama/Hitler comparisons? Trump gets defended by Tapper, but, as far as I know, not Obama.

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Kasich should have compared Drumpf to “an organizer of the Beer Hall putsch.” Drumpf is at the 1928 stage, not the 1945

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This is more like it:

Got the link from an article at DailyKos discussing this article: (so to give credit where credit is due…)

Forget comparisons to the Nazis. Joe McCarthy, George Wallace, Goldwater, Huey Long, and Pat Buchanan will certainly do…but you don’t expect a Republican like Kasich to go there, now do you??

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Desperate or not, if the shoe fits.

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Using that logic I can say the Nazis were better than us because while companies in the US were promoting tobacco use with no government objection, the Nazis banned smoking in many places. Plus the Nazis had government run health care. And Hitler was a vegetarian, etc.

Unless someone is committing genocide, comparison to Nazis is absurd. It actually hurts ones argument, it does not defend it.

And this is a critical point, one missed entirely by Tapper.

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Agreed. Trump is a very dangerous character. He started by using the same basic techniques that Hitler and his gang used, like scapegoating, only instead of blaming all our troubles on the Jews, gypsies, and gays Trump blames Mexicans, Muslims and other “illegals.” And of course, like Hitler, he also blames the press and what he alleges to be an incompetent incumbent government.

He is spawning a whole new group of brownshirts! His extreme rhetoric about sweeping up 11 million “illegal” immigrants and their families (read “undesirables”), basing citizenship on heritage and bloodlines rather than birthright, walling in the country, and flooding the nation with immigration agents (read “gestapo”) hearkens back to the darkest days of the 20th century. We must all adopt the slogan of our Jewish brothers and sisters and shout back to Trump "Never Again!"

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I take it you’re in favor of not learning from history. You’ve got plenty of company, at any rate.

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TPM Headline:

CNN Host To Kasich: It Seems Desperate To Compare Trump To The Nazis

I’m always surprised by the inability of modern media, particularly cable & network news, to differentiate between seemingly unrelated concepts like desperate and accurate.

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  1. Declares a particular racial/religious subset is an existential threat to the country;
  2. Wants to round up 12 million people and kick them out of the country;
  3. Supports closing religious houses for one religion while supporting another;
  4. Considers special registration and identification based on religious identification;
  5. Claims the current leadership is not legitimate and needs to be replaced.

But, no, no comparison to 1933 Germany. None whatsoever.

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I always hear about Neville Chamberlain and appeasement as a “history lesson” as well. The reality is that Chamberlain’s approach usually works in foreign policy, the Nazi’s were the exception to that rule. Yet every time Obama chooses not to go to war and bomb the hell out of everyone, we hear about how it’s “just like Chamberlain and the Nazis”, etc. It gets old.

Trump is a showman with every limited appeal, and he is all talk. He is more interested in marketing himself and keeping his licensing and TV deals going, not in actually being President. Hitler was a master at propaganda, etc., and had a vision of total world power and a master race, and that race did not even include most white people. Two completely different people.

Right. We should only draw comparisons to Nazi’s after the genocide. Screw prevention.

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First of all, Trump is never going to be President. Second, if he hypothetically became President, he would not be doing “genocide”, nor would that even be possible since he would have to clear it through Congress, etc. To think Trump would have the power or desire to exterminate an entire race of people right here in the US is truly just nuts.

A political leader running for the nation’s highest office blames a particular segment of civil society for the downfall of a “once-great country,” claims the current national leader is foreign and illegitimate, would round up and deport 12 million people (remember, that was the original idea in the 30s), would deny a single religious group the right to practice their religion, would give “special identification” to that particular religious group, and would require them to register with the government.

Which am I describing, 1931-1935 Nazi party or Donald Trump?

The comparisons are not to Post-Pearl Harbor WWII Nazis, but to the early days as they tried to change the culture and government to make it possible to commit their heinous crimes.

Back then good people didn’t stand up, and after said, “Never again.” Now is the time to remember, not to hide behind Godwin.

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With all due respect, MrComments, that’s what everyone in Germany thought, too. It starts small. Almost always does.

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