Discussion: CNN: Ben Carson's Former Classmates Don't Recall His Violent Outbursts

I am in the middle of reading Rick Perlstein’s “The Invisible Bridge: The Fall of Nixon and the Rise of Reagan.” (1)

Carson’s re-imagining of the past to fit his narrative of the world is very much like what Reagan did; sometimes Reagan’s memory of what happened didn’t fit with reality. (2)

  1. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20694952-the-invisible-bridge?from_search=true&search_version=service

  2. http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/ronald_reagans_wartime_lies_the_president_had_quite_a_brian_williams_problem/

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But you probably remember whether it was you or your partner who had to push the baby out.

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Damn. I need to switch to your brand of toothpaste.

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Tactical tongs: because sometimes you have to eat in a gun-free zone.

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You could have said that the John Cusack character in Grosse Pointe Blank was based on you.

Such distinctions smack of PC facism.

One would think (I would anyway as a teacher of 1st yr med students before I retired) doctors/surgeons would have decent judgement as to the effects of their treatments/surgeries. Carson would have had to have, out of necessity, an understanding of the scientific method and its importance in the development and history of medicine. To reject it would be to reject his profession at its most basic level. It’s the equivalent of rejecting the factual evidence that underlies measurable reality. It’s as if he has decided that facts (which are apolitical from the outset) have a decidedly liberal bias in his mind. How then can he practice medicine if he does not believe the factual reality of what he is doing in the operating room?
It’s a massive conundrum. No wonder he retired.

Ben Carson = Legend in his own mind.

Similarly, how does a Creationist that believes the Earth is literally 6000 years old (plus or minus, etc) get accepted into a university Geology program?

And the Founders were all Puritan Pilgrims.

His mental issue is religion. It has rotted his brain out to the core.

Yes, you have it exactly. He entire raison d’etre is that he is this super duper accomplished person who brought himself up from nothing to the pinnacle of his profession. Maybe that is all that matters for people, but he certainly gains great cache for being a doctor and not, say, a great violinist.

And yet he rejects the enterprise of science which is what make neurosurgery a profession worthy of our esteem.

Carly Fiorina is running entirely based on the fact that she was once a CEO. It as if she were publicly rejecting all the sound foundations of successful business while still promoting her resume. Oh wait. Fuck it.

It is painfully and clearly obvious that Carson and others in the Clown Car enjoy making up their chosen version of reality out of whole cloth of their own choosing. In no way (other than he may be speaking words in English) is what he says related to experiential reality.
Abortion as slavery
His Hitler comments
His D-Day comment
His Pyramid as grain storehouse comment in 1998
And his double down on that last comment that he still believes Pyramids were grain storehouses built by Joseph (of the Coat of Many Colors).
Actual evidence to the contrary of these statements are biased liberal facts offered up by commie socialistic toadies who are looking to destroy America from within for their own nefarious reasons, he says.

A couple of months ago I posted that I thought the campaign derp would grow exponentially the closer we got to the primaries and the election. Looks like I’m right. Who knows what steaming load of juicy warmed over BS will arrive next for the masses to digest. It’s shocking to me that Carson and Trump haven’t been hounded out of politics altogether for their massive and continuing epic stupidity.

To get into a reputable medical school (like for example the one I taught at for 47 years) Carson, if he had those crazy ideas at the time, would have had to hide them. He would have had to hide his rejection of science. He would have had to lie his way thru to that medical degree. If I knew a student rejected measurable verifiable scientific facts I would have acted to get him out of the program. It would have been based on a desire to protect future patients from a charlatan.
People I have spoken to say Carson was a gifted doctor who was the best neurosurgeon America ever produced. I reject that notion if his career was built on lies and deceit to get into medical school. I have known other surgeons who didn’t have a lick of common sense but had very high opinions of themselves.

My dentist listens to country music and watches soccer. Color me crazy but I still let him work on my teeth, he’s a brilliant dentist. Go figure.

Hm, I would think that intelligence and good judgment factor into his background in medicine, whether they linger yet or not, but to marry your position with mine, the breadth of those characteristics seems to be much narrower in Carson than one should expect from the leader of the country. Either he is an intelligent man (and, I think, it’s not out of the question to say that he sometimes appears to be intelligent, and that he does at times display higher levels of intelligence than your average person, whether it’s legitimate or by way of smoke and mirrors) with some rather remarkable deficits with respect to his relationship to reality, or he is an incredible opportunist, astoundingly disingenuous in the thralls of politicking and pandering to the conservative electorate, which seems in part at least quite likely. But I’m sure there is room for both assessments to be true–the bat-shittiest of politicians seem ever more predisposed to generating grand scale, hats-off-to-you lies and misinformation. When you have a massive pool of insanity to draw from, the lies can take some jaw-droppingly creative turns, as we’re seeing with Carson.

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Watching soccer and listening to country music isn’t exactly the same as believing the Earth is 6000yrs old, the Pyramids were grain store houses, and rejection of the scientific method. My physician plays the guitar in a rock band on his days off. He’s pretty good too.

Walter Mitty on a bad acid trip.

Maybe he’s making EVERYTHING up and totally goofing on us all. Maybe he wants to see how far he can go with this…

Dr. Zahi Hawas as well as a number of modern archaeologists have proven that slaves didn’t build the pyramids either. That was a myth. The reality is that the pyramids were built by the same kind of religious fervor that built the Roman Catholic cathedrals of Europe. It was a form of worship. Those who died while building the pyramids got interred in the area near the great pyramids in their own mini-pyramids.

I studied to be an archaeologist :slight_smile:

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