Discussion for article #239812
I hope she does-someone needs to go to the mat on this.
3 Likes
âWe have got to do something about gun violence in America,â Clinton said at a news conference Wednesday in Iowa. âAnd I will take it on.â
âThere is so much evidence that if guns were not so readily available, if we had universal background checks, if we could just put some time out between the person whoâs upset because he got fired or the domestic abuse or whatever other motivation may be working on someone who does this, then maybe we could prevent this kind of carnage,â Clinton said.
And this is one of the many reasons why she has my full support. The problem with gun violence in this country isnât just about mental health, though that is one factor. The problem is the availability of guns. The ease of a jilted lover to grab a gun and go take their exes life, and the lives of everyone else whoâs home, is the real problem. Thatâs whatâs truly got to change.
8 Likes
Meanwhile, Faux is making this all about black-on-black violence, calling it a hate crime and asking âdo white lives matter now?â Theyâre even pushing this video of a black woman ranting about black on black crime and murder that has now gone viral because millions of rednecks are loving the soundbite she fed them to get herself on tv.
Yet, what solutions will they offer? What solutions will they support? NONE. Everything anyone says about spending money on those communities will get shot down and answered with âwe just need to put our foot down, stop helping them at all and tell them to stop it, grow up, be responsible adults and parents like us white people or else!!!â
And now, back to Honey BoobooâŚ
7 Likes
So far, Iâve not heard a word from Bernie Sanders about this.
If he stays silent much longerâand Iâm talking hours here, not daysâhe will have done significant damage to his campaign.
1 Like
âWe have got to do something about gun violence in America.â
I could not agree more! Only problem is that most everybody who feels this way, including Hillary, rarely gets past the âsomethingâ with any specific proposals that are practical and politically possible. I have said for years that on a national level, or on the state level with national minimum standards, we should enact laws requiring all owners and users of firearms to be licensed, with the licensing process to include evidence of proper training and a thorough background check. No doubt the NRA will scream bloody murder, but it is my belief that such a system can be devised that will comport with with the âwell-regulated militiaâ clause of the 2nd Amendment and will garner public favor.
Once licensed, one would easily be able to obtain a weapon or weapons and ammunition from a legal purveyor by merely presenting his/her license and having it scanned to insure that no events (arrests, psychological flags, etc) have compromised the license. In fact, such a license could be incorporated into state driverâs license systems that usually includes reports on similar relevant information.
Let the debate begin . . .
1 Like
+ a million -- YOU GO GIRL ! ! ---
1 Like
Yep, and theyâre going to keep blowing up that aspect until the GOP presidential candidates are forced to weigh in and say something completely racist.
3 Likes
She will run into the same NRA wall that Obama and Biden have run into. And some of those bricks in the wall are Democrats.
3 Likes
The NRA, with the current White House resident still in place, will never allow any forward movement.
Sadly, in this case and unlike so many of the other mass murders (and I use the term âmassâ loosely, since this was two dead and one wounded, not like VTA or Aurora), there was no obvious mental illness here. Yeah, the guy was a disgruntled employee, but he wasnât under any kind of diagnosis for schizophrenia or anything like that (at least, not at this writing).
So he got fired. Is that enough of a reason to prevent him from getting a gun? On what database would his work history be reasonably stored?
I guess the point Iâm going for is this: with all the laws on the books plus all the proposals for national databases, what in all those actions would have prevent this tragedy from happening today?
To my mind: absolutely none of them.
1 Like
The currently proposed laws might directly prevent other sorts of crimes. But we donât have a proposed solution yet, certainly not that I know of anyway, to keep a homicidally angry person whoâs not a felon, adjudicated mentally ill, or under a restraining order from getting and using a gun. Sometimes I think we may need a generation or two before things change much. But you do what you can in the meantime, right?
1 Like
Moar Gunz!
1 Like
You are correct. I still want to see less guns on the street, though. Especially handguns.
If Secretary Clinton gets the Democratic nomination, I will vote for her.
But you know, and I know, that she will do absolutely nothing with regard to the gun crisis in this country.
Whatâs your policy to actually implement change in the weapon obsessed U.S.?
I donno. I am beginning to think the idea of banning individual possession of ALL handguns except⌠has merit.
Here is why:
As a candidate in 1990, Sanders won over gun rights groups by promising to oppose one bill they hated â a measure that would establish a waiting period for handgun sales.
And itâs not about how much help the NRA actually gave Bernie, itâs about what Bernie was willing to give up to win.
1 Like