Discussion: Clinton Still Leads In South Carolina

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Did anyone really think that a polling lead like Clinton had in November wouldn’t "narrow?"When you start that high, you usually have nowhere to go but down.

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of course it spins the headline pro Bernie. He was down 38 in a Saturday poll. Forget this site. I am out. Everyone enjoy your election year

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Still down 21 points???
Hillary and Bernie split the white vote. The Dem Party consists of 40% white and 60% minority. Come on. Hillary is going to win SC.

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His numbers with minorities is still pretty horrible…both in favorabilities and in actual support.

My prediction is that given that SC has an open primary, Sanders does better than expected, but still loses by hefty margin,and the MSM runs with…he did better than expected. And they continue that argument until it finally dawns on them that he is getting creamed in the delegate race.

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Cutting Hillary’s lead 30 points since the last PPP poll is impressive. But that took from November to now. He only has a week and a half to gain the 22 additional points to win SC. Of course he beat the polling averages by about 8-9 points in New Hampshire, another open primary state. Still, he has a long way to go before he’s even in the range where that level of outperforming the polls would take him over the top. I suspect this is just too steep a hill to climb in the amount of time he has left before SC. About the only way I see that happening is if he pulls off a big win in Nevada, shattering the “minorities won’t support Bernie” theory. So:

  • If Hillary wins NV (even narrowly) and then goes on to win SC by double digits, I think the narrative will be that “the race is all but over.” The “weekend at Bernie’s” analogies (he’s dead but his buddies pretend he isn’t) will be flying fast and furious after that.

  • If Bernie wins NV (even narrowly) and loses SC by single digits (especially low single digits) I think the narrative will be “the race continues to be surprisingly tight.”

  • If Bernie not only wins Nevada, but somehow manages to win at least a narrow majority in South Carolina (which I really do not expect to happen), then the narrative becomes Bernie-mentum in a big way…and rightly so.

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Plus I think Bernie brings in a lot of voters that normally aren’t interested in the mainstream folks. I just hope that they will return for the final vote regardless of who wins the primary. We need you folks and Hillary will do a lot more for you than any R, even if it’s not as much as you’d like.

There are some pretty disturbing rumors cropping up now from Nevada concerning a litany of dirty tricks Sanders campaign is employing there. National Review and others are actively investigating now.

But I am sure Bernie doesn’t know a thing about any of it. The entire pattern that HAS been exposed so far, are all just one offs, and not actually a pattern at all.

There’s nothing in Bernie’s entire track record that points to a habit of dirty tricks. However the Clintons are another story. If you are hearing rumors than by definition they are coming from the Clinton camp. She pretty much lies about Sanders in her stump speech as a matter of habit now (that he wants to start over from ground zero on heallthcare, for one).

Remind me why she is running again. I forgot why. I mean other than she wants to be president.

Whose campaign broke into the DNC database to pilfer through the opposing teams voting records? Bernie

Whose campaign got caught faking being union leaders and sneaking into work places and lying to union members, telling them the union endorsed their candidate, and telling them to vote for that candidate? Bernie

Whose campaign got caught sending out fundraising letters and urging people to vote, claiming an endorsement from the League of Conservation Voters…on the League’s own letterhead…when in fact they had endorsed the other candidate? Bernie

Whose campaign similarly was sending out letters using the AARP and American Legion logos, urging people to vote, without permission OR endorsement? And received cease and desist orders after continuing to do so after it had been brought to their attentions? Bernie

So, yeah…Bernie has a great track record so far. And its only February.

And see the big difference here? I lay off specifics while you ramble on about generalities.

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