There is that, among some.
But we’re back to the same question asked earlier in this thread: Then who?
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I think I read somewhere Jr’s attorney fees are being covered by the Trump campaign. It also explains why Trump has been holding early fundraisers for 2020. He’s either too cheap or broke to float his own attorney fees.
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OK, so those states don’t count now? WTF is your point? That’s as stupid as the argument that Obama won largely due to the minority vote, as if those voters are somehow less desirable.
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Now those are criticisms I personally find valid.
Simple fact of the matter is, though, that the writing was on the wall why the guy who’s now in the WH was a catastrophic choice that she would not have been and if too few people could see that…
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Not that it matters to the likes of you, but she didn’t rig anything and actually won the primary fair and square.
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Oh pleeease! Then we never should never have nominated Gore in 2000 or Kerry in 2004. She recieved the second highest humber of votes in our entire history. This is sexist. Yes! I’m saying it is sexist because of the double standard. The likability trumped up issue has its roots in sexism. No matter what she was like, the sexist were going to find her unlikable. Just like the racist find Obama unlikable because of racism. Sexist and racism are both hate based on bigotry. If we choose not to nominate a woman or any other member of a minority because they will be hated by those who fear them, we have given in to the haters that elected Trump.
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Hillary Clinton’s book has her sounding like a Scooby Doo villain: “I would have won it too, if it wasn’t for you meddling Bernie Bros!” As for your invective characterization of Sanders, well, that’s your opinion, man. It’s not substantiated by any shred of actual evidence (meaning anything more substantive than whinging by Clinton Campaign insiders and spin doctors.) Sanders went so far in his support for Clinton that he was called a sellout by the world’s actual Democratic Socialists! And “reshaping the Democratic Party into his own image”? How long have you been alive? Do you know nothing of the Great Depression, the New Deal or FDR? If anyone “shaped the Democratic Party into his own image” it would be Bill Clinton, when he sold it out to Wall Street, ended “welfare as we know it”, signed the Neoliberal wet dreams of NAFTA and China PNTR, ended Glass Steagall, turned the media over to Rupert Murdoch via The Telecommunications Act of 1996, locked up the “super predators” in record numbers, made deficit fetishism a Democratic Party thing and punched every hippy and union member he could find. He turned the Democratic Party’s motto from “We’re offering a New Deal, Square Deal, Fair Deal and Better Deal,” to, “Who else are you gonna vote for?”. And some people are shocked that after twenty years of this shit not enough people fell for it this time. So how’s that for looking at the whole and examining all contributing factors?
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This is it in a nutshell. He basked in the glory of adoring worshipers who seemed to be more interested in “shaking things up” than in selecting someone who could govern the country. Despite his years in the legislature he was as dim as the current resident of the White House about how things actually work, rendering him unfit for the job that needed to be done.
People can dislike Hillary Clinton if they want to, but she really was the only grown-up in the room, and now we deal daily with the petulant tantrums of one of the two upstarts who dominated the season with their superior “visuals” for entertainment TV.
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“…she also places some of the fault on her former Democratic opponent and former FBI Director James Comey.”
Nope. No sale here. Not buying the explanation any more than I’ll be buying books by any Clinton. (“My Life” was enough of a slog for me, and I love Politics, History, and Reading)
HRH Hill just can’t bring herself to do what she ought to have done Election Night and did not hive the fortitude to do. Admit that she is the worst “democratic” candidate since Dukakis.
The fact that someone dared to offer up alternatives to another four years of Clinton magic is only a problem in her eyes, and she is still blocking the fact that the “Party” which she ran did something so very un-democratic to another candidate.
She makes no accounting of the mess that was left behind in her wake. One that still needs to be put right and that is another thing she is avoiding while she continues to equivocate and wallow in what can only be described as convenient literary self-pity.
Look, Madame Clinton, the Party that you were so dead set or leading is deep, deep in a mire.
So much so that they stand to lose the elections in 2018. Stop the heaping helpings of excuses printed on trees as dead as your last campaign. Instead, why don’t you do what you say you wanted to do in the first place? According to you, you only need one person’s permission to LEAD. Why don’t you take a spoonful of your own advice? Help America out of the hole she is in part on account of you.
Stop writing. Stop whining.
LEAD, Follow, or get out of the way!
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An excellent question and a good reason to be concerned. If we didn’t have a great bench to choose from in 2016, what has changed for 2020?
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You know, I’m vigorously defending HRC here – but I was really dreading the release of her book. I was worried it would distract, and judging by my own reaction, it certainly has! I really don’t want to be arguing about the 2016 election.
I’m so angry and worried about everything trump is doing that I want people to just wake up, stop the bickering and blame amongst ourselves and realize we will need to join forces with any and all allies we can to force out the fascists. This means pulling in everyone who opposes trumpism – every tribe within the left as well as moderates, and conservatives. But I am already getting worried that we are as fractured and incoherent as the GOP is. We will all need to find some compromise – and I really do not care who steps forward – as long as their appeal is broad enough to win. We have no choice but to take the house and senate. Its survival.
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He dissed her Southern primary wins and voters too. She won Virginia. Don’t think he would’ve.
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I never quite understood the argument that it was OK for Sanders to be soft on gun control because he represents a rural state, but she’s the devil for having anything to do with her constituents in the financial services industry. There was so much hypocrisy emanating from the Brosephery.
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OT but I think you’ll find this interesting.
Ex-CIA official explains exactly why Trump’s ‘pee tape’ escapades are probably real
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Sad.
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There’s about ten people to choose from. Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, Adam Schiff, Gavin Newsom, Jerry Brown, the Castro brothers, Mitch Landrieu, Deval Patrick, Elizabeth Warren, to name ten. Plus, there will be more who’ll reveal themselves in time. This really isn’t a worry of mine at all. At this point in 2005, nobody was even thinking about Barack Obama.
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Hillary had feminist blinders on. Hillary was the alpha feminist out to destroy a man for being a man. He’s lousy at business? Multiple bankruptcies? A personal track record worse than just putting his money in an index fund? A history of taking his “fees” and ducking out to leave his partners holding the bag? None of that mattered. In Pennsylvania the week before the election she put on ads about nothing but allegations of sexual misconduct and rude behavior. Nothing about his shady business and lack of leadership. Hillary’s campaign was pure feminism, right down to shaming her opponents when she didn’t get her way. But of course nobody could point that out, to call her on misandry would be misogyny, or so her supporters would say.
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LOL! That’s like saying I had one bad vote out of many, like many other senators. My god, it was just one vote I voted yes on, AUMF. What’s the big deal? What about all my other votes? They all count … jeez.
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Let me guess – you are a man.
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I don’t believe it says more about her than about the voters. There were actually well educated women that didn’t vote for her because they didn’t think a woman could be president. Really in this day and age?
I think it comes down to - some people voted a protest vote thinking she had it locked up, and the republicans chose to ignore the fact they were electing an unqualified idiot because they wanted the Supreme Court. Mitch McConnell probably played as much a part in the election as the Russians did.
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