What makes me such a lightning rod
20+ years of relentless attack by rightwing media and it’s perverse fanboy base coupled with a less than dignified creation of great personal wealth that played into this pre-wired, craze-like opposition.
“Methinks the lady doth protest too much…”
Her critique of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) ties into her disdain for Trump, saying Sanders’ attempts to damage her image during the primaries made way for Trump to latch onto the “crooked Hillary” rhetoric that was so emboldening for his base.
This was an election, not a coronation. It was Bernie Sanders’ job to point out her flaws during the primaries, so that her campaign would be prepared to rebut Republican criticisms in the general election. If there had been more candidates for the Democratic nomination, and if Hillary had not locked up so much of the major donors, she might not have even become the nominee.
I wish she would look at how she had clear vulnerabilities going into this campaign. I’m someone who is disposed to like her, but I was concerned that her financial success and comfort rendered her out of touch with the concerns of non-wealthy people. There was 25+ years of anti-Clinton propaganda out there that has persuaded a lot of people to never vote for her even if their lives depended on it. It was always going to be a narrower margin of victory with her than with someone like Joe Biden.
If that was really the problem, how do explain that poor white slobs elected trump?
Bernie Sanders certainly did damage last year. Now I read this, and it hardly makes me like him any better. Blame can also be directed at some democrats, but he’s certainly no knight in shining armor.
Methinks your use of this quote in this context has that stink of underlying misogyny.
This was an election, not a coronation. It was Bernie Sanders’ job to point out her flaws during the primaries, so that her campaign would be prepared to rebut Republican criticisms in the general election. If there had been more candidates for the Democratic nomination, and if Hillary had not locked up so much of the major donors, she might not have even become the nominee.
It was Senator Sanders’ job to attempt to win enough votes to secure the Democratic nomination.
His choices in how he attempted to win those votes are his alone, just as Hillary Clinton chose to not particularly pursue a negative campaign against Sanders in 2016 or (IIRC) against Senator Obama in 2008. I know a lot more about OOGA BOOGA WALL STREET GOLDMAN SACHS CLINTON SPEECHES than I do about (say) Senator Sanders’ positions as a presidential candidate on immigration reform, and that’s largely up to the messaging of his campaign strategy.
Everybody is an adult in this room and everybody gets to own their fair share in the consequences of their actions.
Opposition to the post modern, dark alpha that has haunted what appears to be becoming humanity’s moral goal of 100% individual uplift must be more ‘open web’ and as money and prejudice free as humanly possible simply to survive the knife’s edge as old tribal monsters thrash and fade.
Adults take responsibility for their failures. They don’t engage in pity parties and blame everyone else, from stupid Bernie Sanders to the Stupid voters. It was her job as the nominee to win voters to her campaign, not shame them into voting for her. (And before anyone goes off on the Electoral College, just remember that Barack Obama, the black guy, the one she said could never be elected because he was black and America was too racist, won two Electoral College Landslides against far better candidates.) She was The Most Qualified Candidate for President in the History of Forever, and not only did she lose to the Worst Candidate for President in the History of Forever, she took most of the rest of the Party down with her. That says more about her as a candidate, and Democratic Party machinations to ensure she was the nominee, than it does about the rest of us. (For the record: I supported Sanders in the primary, and dutifully voted for Clinton in the General, so I did my bit, and so did everybody else I personally know who supported Sanders. In fact, a larger percentage of Sanders supporters voted for Clinton in 2016 than former Clinton supporters voted for Obama in 2008.)
Fair or not, real or not, we knew all these issues. (Including HRC)
For these reasond we never should have nominated her in 2016. (And she should not have run)
Was Bernie the best answer? No, but HRC’s presence in the race kept better people from seeking the nomination.
There was 25+ years of anti-Clinton propaganda out there that has persuaded a lot of people to never vote for her even if their lives depended on it.
Part of a campaigning is to point out how you are the right candidate for the office, and part of it is showing how other candidates are the wrong ones.
Media has trained us to ‘take it’.
We hear the music we cry, we dance, we salute…
The ‘problem’ contains the darkest secrets of the postwar period.
I agree and I think a lot of the blame for that can be laid at the feet of the DNC, who was more interested in a coronation than they were in actually giving people a reason to vote. DWS was firmly in the coronation mind-set and should never been in charge of the national organization. It was more than just the Presidency that was lost, as there were excellent Dem candidates who tried to make a good showing in the 2016 election but got no support for their campaigns.
True – but the fact that she was now “rich” was something particularly hyped as an issue by Sanders. Look – she was not my first choice either, but she became my candidate when Biden and Warren didn’t run and the only alternative was Sander’s transparent demagoguery.
This is horse patooty. The DNC was interested in an election, had one, got one, and Hillary Clinton won it, and it wasn’t close.
How singular.
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I must’ve missed her inauguration then.
His told more entertaining lies.