Your “aim high” and “move the ball inch by inch” sounds like one of those pop-up bunts that almost never works.
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That has been her message from the outset. She’s just stating it a bit more directly now.
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Translation: U.S. leftists and socialist, continue to vote for a party that will never fight for most anything you want, and will work against your interest because we will never fight for you anything you want, and will work against your interest.
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So we should have not gotten the ACA because “unicorns”.
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Well given that she is a campaign surrogate and Sanders has not said boo about distancing himself form, nor walking back what his surrogate said…
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Was that Weaver’s answer when asked to respond to Sarandon’s comments, or something like that?
Which is why I support Clinton calling for expanding the ACA with a public option.
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Yes, well, he needs to remind his followers about that regularly.
Get nothing.
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No, the likes of Nelson and Lieberman should have been bribed or threatened to the point where they would have supported it because of avarice or fear.
Thank you for that.
I have not seen anything from the Sanders campaign on that until your posted.
Not doubting it at all, but do you have a link? Would like to post that as a follow-up on some feeds form yesterday.
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She never said aim low. But way to fabricate shit out of whole cloth.
Aim for what is achievable and work towards the long term gaol.
I know it rubs you the wrong way, but that is how responsible adults function.
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It doesn’t sound to me you guys disagree with each other, actually.
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They vote for the GOP?
Interesting theory.
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Yes, Lieberman the guy who was drummed out of the Democratic Party already and campaigned for McCain just needed a little more sweet-talk and bribery to foreclose his future career as a insurance lobbyist since knew he was not going to be able to continue past his last term in Sentate?
Meanwhile, back here in reality…
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Why do you think of the two as mutually exclusive ONLY in Hillary’s case?
Why do the Bernie Bros bash Hillary for making reasonable statements about what she thinks she can actually accomplish (while still having high-minded ideals) but that is NEVER GOOD ENOUGH.
You want your cake and to eat it too.
It’s not an either/or choice. You Bernieites constantly complain that ONLY Bernie has the right ideas (all praise the sainted one, Bernie) and ignore all the work Hillary has done for 40 years for the Democratic party and people everywhere.
You ignore Bernie sucking up to the NRA but excoriate Hillary for talking to Bankers (oh, fetch the fainting couch Martha!)
Take a good hard look in the mirror and ask yourself, is PURITY and Unwillingness to EVER compromise on ANYTHING (the EXACT same things you scream at the Tea-Baggers for) worth having a President Ted Cruz making you bend to his ideas on how to worship, who to marry, and how to THINK?
Fuck that.
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Oh, I forgot, when Democrats control the Senate it takes 60 votes to pass anything.
Is that the Reid Corollary to the Hastert Rule?
When the vote was taken, Hillary and the rest of the senate were not told the complete truth. Bush lied, withheld information about his plans that would have changed the vote. Hillary has apologized, even though it was not the senates fault for making the vote on the misleading facts Bush gave.
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No it is called the filibuster.
Democrats never had a technical 60 person majority in the Senate at any point in time while President Obama has been in office.
In 2009 there were 60 Senators who caucused with the Democrats for all of 47 days, the number of days between when Al Franken was sworn in after the lengthy recount fight with Norm Coleman and the day when Ted Kennedy died of cancer.
Even then, the Senate was only in session for 21 days between July 7th, 2009 when Al Franken was sworn in and August 25th the day Kennedy died. Furthermore Kennedy was out of the Senate the entire time because he was dying of brain cancer and was never present in the Senate, and had not cast a vote in the Senate a full 4 months before Franken was even sworn in.
And even if somehow Kennedy was wheeled in while he was dying, you could only get to 60 votes if you count on Joe Lieberman for that 60th vote, and he actively campaigned for the GOP ticket in the election that seated the 111th Congress…
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There IS some disagreement that goes beyond semantics. (I wouldn’t say anything crazy).
Of course our tactics should represent our best visions; I’m not suggesting we end like Kansas and be grateful for it.
The meme I’m emphasizing is that of “vision.” If the vision is too high, then the tactics become moot. How you fight is just as important as what you fight for.
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