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By the way, check out her history when she was on the Board of Directors of Walmart. She was on the Board of Directors at least 6 years. Read the May 7, 2007 New York times article on her term on said Board. She did NOTHING when Walmartâs was going after forming unions and getting wage increases. Remember she and Bill were part of the New Democrats that are basically Republican light.
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Just give it up While youâre looking at her record, look at the entirety of it. She was the first person to fight for Universal Health Care and to get childrenâs health insurance so spare me her time at Walmart. Ihave changed over the years - have you not? And if mot, then you are special
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"I think the best evidence that the Wall Street people at least know where I stand and where I have always stood is because they are trying to beat me in this primary.â
Where is the evidence that Wall Street people are trying to beat you, Hillary? George Soros just contributed $8 million to your campaign. Your âgood friendâ, Michael Bloomberg promised to spend up to $$1 billion of his own money to run a third party campaign if you were not the Democratic nominee.
Are you simply misspeaking or intentionally lying (but not in an illegal way)?
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Itâs funny you joined just one day ago to lecture us on her record as if we were ignorant. Some of us support Bernie, some of us support Hillary, some are still on the fence, but regardless most of us here are far more informed than you seem to assume.
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The last four livewire stories:
Clinton Defends
Clinton Hits Back
Clinton Rejects
Clinton Slams
TPM is just tying itself in knots these days.
âhey, guys, cut it outâ âŚ
She did go to Wall Street in December of 2007 to address the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) and she gave a powerful speech in which she clearly took the side of homeowners against those who took advantage of them.
"Responsibility [for the mortgage crisis] also lies with Wall Street, which not only enabled but often encouraged reckless mortgage lending. Mortgage lenders didnât have balance sheets big enough to write millions of loans on their own, so Wall Street originated and packaged the loans that common sense warned might very well have ended in collapse and foreclosure.
âSome people might say Wall Street helped to distribute risk. Well, I believe Wall Street shifted risk away from people who knew what was going on onto people who didnât.â
The speech is available on YouTube and it is long, but itâs well worth a listen.
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My heart is with Bernie, but my head is with Hillary. Having said that, I too was struck by the overwhelming sense that TPMâs coverage of tonightâs debate emphasized Hillary at the expense of Bernie.
And Arkansas has been a right-to-work state since 1947.
Itâs even written in their state constitution. Your point?
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I wonder how much they paid her for that! 
I always find it amusing when preening elitist assholes like Anderson Cooper or some other TV media twit has the nerve to ask about the high paying speaking fees of politicians. These are the same overly-paid jerks that receive millions of dollars in salary by their networksâŚand that doesnât even include the many perks Iâm sure they get handed to them as well. Chris Matthews gets 3 million a year I once read. Brian Williams about the same. No telling what Toady Todd gets, but you can bet itâs also in the millions.
I mean, come onâŚwho do they think theyâre fooling?? Do they really think theyâre asking this question for the benefit of the American people? Or, do they just want to stoke anger over the inherent inequity of a system that pays a person for merely speaking to an audience, and so much less for someone who fills pot holes for a living? If only the Anderson Coopers of the world would ask themselves if its fair that he gets millions while the guy who snakes his toilet is paid so much less. Now that would be revelatory.
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Nothing. She was a U.S. Senator from NY at the time and also running for President. She didnât go there to soothe egos. She went there to make a case against Wall Streetâs actions that helped cause the mortgage crisis.
If you donât believe me, watch the speech. Itâs available on several different cites. Just do an Internet search: Hillary Clinton NASD Speech December 2007.
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Doremus looked it up last night. Turns out that Andersonâs standard fee for a speaking engagement is $125,000 a pop.
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Yea sheâs a plant by republicans and is going to end ,integration, laws against descrimination, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, public schools, EPA, FDA, unions, minimum wage, OSHA, IRS, DOEducation, DOEnergy, DOCommerce, HUD, abortions, Planned Parenthood, gay marriage, federal ruling over states, , any religion but christianityâŚdid I miss anything?
Yes, and for once I would love to hear someone â candidate or no â ask, âYour network receives millions from banks, pharmaceutical firms, insurers and oil companies to runs ads. Can you assure us that your editorial judgment is not influenced by your relationship with these firms? Why should we trust you when you report on issues that affect these companies?â
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Which of course is the reason we havenât heard shit about global warming as a problem for the planet for most of the Obama years until recently, and a host of other issues about income inequality due to corporate malfeasance. Until OWS pressed the issue, you would have never heard a peep out of the national media regarding such disparities. Just wish OWS went after the media conglomerates as much as they did Wall Street and the big banks, and when they did to some minor degree, you knew the MSM werenât going to cover it anyway.
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Sheâll use the donations to get elected then to continue the process of scaling back the influence of Wall Street in the everyday personâs finances.
Wall Street isnât going away and the stock market is a necessity, itâs the bastards that figure out the ways to manipulate the process for otherwise unattainable amounts of money at the expense of their fellow citizens that must be stopped. They have gotten so powerful at his point, that that is much easier said than done.
Jail time would work so would seizing the ill-gotten funds but the Wall Street bandits are not only slick money men, they are skilled at shielding themselves from repercussions of their crimes which is evidence of the intent to commit the crimes in the first place actually.
No matter whether Hillary or Bernie wins, this issue has to be continued. I see Bernie coming at it from slightly different angles than Elizabeth Warren but the combined efforts will have an even bigger effect than Dodd Frank does now or the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
This is one of those wars, like the silly war on Christmas but very real and very serious instead.