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Clinto needs to take stock or herself. She needs to “bitch up!” Her running around and saying that she’s pragmatic progressive doesn’t inspire people, especially young women.
Instead, she ough to “bitch up,” and snatch a page from Tina Fey who once remarked “Bitches get things done.” Yeah, own it and be a Big Mama, and inspire people.
Start talking about the “bitches” who have gotten things done: Joan of Arc, Harriet Tubman, Amelia Earhart, Frances Perkins, etc.
She probably has to add more people. She’s got Sanders coming at her on one side and the GOP SuperPACs on the other. Sanders only has to deal with Hillary and, furthermore, the GOP is taking care of the negative campaigning with all those anti-Hillary ads so he can concentrate on his message.
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Good point about having to fight on two fronts simultaneously. While Karl Rove is feeding stories about her Wall Street connections to the press some anonymous “Clinton supporters” are leaking campaign shake-up stories to Politico.
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I definitely expect she will read everything that’s written and assess each and every observation, analysis and piece of advice on it with all the care, expertise and inside knowledge that’s characteristic of online reader comment threads.
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Yes, that’s probably true, so I’m going to throw my 2 cents in: stay the course until after South Carolina! One caucus, one primary in your opponent’s neighboring state do not a pending disaster make. If you do shake it up, it looks like you’ve lost confidence in the electoral strategy you’ve been presumably working on for four if not 6 or 8 years.
Articulate your vision, get Bill out there talking positive but subtly dismissing Bernie’s lack of experience outside the Senate, and put others to work on attacking him outright.
There. Send my 2 cent check to the Red Cross.
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It’s just a tough election cycle for incumbents/establishment types. Largely because I think they’ve underestimated the white-hot anger still out there among average Americans towards Wall Street and corporate types. They still don’t get it.
I want Clinton to win the primary, but I certainly don’t mind her suffering for her past sins at least a little.
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Hillary is a drama magnet. She attracts drama and drama people like bees to honey. This story looks like infighting among drama people jostling for position in her orbit.
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‘Coach, after playing State U into quadruple overtime and assuming your squad takes a beating tomorrow night, do you foresee any changes or just doubling down on what they’ve been doing so far, or what?’
- Right now, we’re planning on keeping up our preparation for tomorrow night’s Big Game, going hard as we can while of course resting up for the effort, working towards a happy medium between alert and focused on the one hand and on the other getting too all fired nervous and worked up about things over which we actually can’t control. Then after the contest, I’d expect to sit down with my entire senior staff, as usual, and go thru a comprehensive breakdown on everything that happened and what all we might be able to do in the future to improve our performance.
‘Holy f… Listen, Coach, I thought maybe we’d be hearing nothing but a bunch of platitudes here so I have to confess I didn’t bother turning on my recording equipment. But this is journalistic GOLD here, so do you mind if I turn it on now, then I’ll try to ask the same question and you try to repeat that dynamite answer?’
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The entire blogosphere and media are telling Clinton that not only can she not stand up for herself and fight back against Bernie, now older women (Albright) and Bill Clinton are being yelled at for defending her: so I have to ask, who is permitted to fight for Hillary?
Hillary stated some cold facts about Sanders health care plan, and people were absolutely aghast that
she would stoop so low.
Then older feminists mentioned that electing the first woman president might also be considered “revolutionary” and that girls might start taking that into consideration. Everyone was aghast–how dare they say such things?!!
Now Bill Clinton tells three facts about the Sanders campaign–the prolonged snooping into Hillary’s
voter list data, his actual fundraising for the DNC with some WS fat cats, and then getting money from the DNC for his campaigns, and his online “Berniebros” directing horrific misogyny at HRC. Everyone is aghast: "He shouldn’t do that!!"
Now look at it this way: if HRC were the victim of any of the things Bill raised and the perpetrators were Republicans–would anyone object?
No, St. Bernie is a sacred myth–he’s pure, above politics etc.
So if Bill, Chelsea, Madeleine Albright and herself cannot defend her and point out an adversary’s weak points: who is ALLOWED to do so?
I’ve never ever heard of a being told so often that it must take a vow of silence about an opponent.
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Well Bernie is pushing her left for sure and that’s a good thing.
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No kidding. It’s “over the line” (in TPM alum Greg Sargent’s words) for Bill Clinton to say that Sanders’ worldview is a bubble, yet Sanders’ constant derision of the entire Democratic Party as a hopelessly corporatist tool of Wall Street - implicitly encouraging his supporters to stay home if he’s not nominated, and weakening their downballot support even if he is - gets a full pass?
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I think you are right on point. I would add that most of the American people care a lot more about the economy - the country’s and their own - than they do about Glass Steagall and Citizens United. Hillary has a lot of excellent individual ideas/programs, but she doesn’t have a unifying theme, an umbrella theme covering all of them, a truly full employment economic program. I think she needs to do that, and of all the candidates she is the only one who can do that. We don’t need Bernie’s demagogic political revolution, but we do need a hard hitting, aggressive program for the American people to take back control of their economy.
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Funny thing is, we haven’t heard much from Bernie these past 2-3 days. But Albright and hubby Bill are doing their best to muck things up. And then there’s Hillary getting caught in the who’s more progressive argument. And after two years of preparation, logistical support, and gobs of money, she’s thinking of taking stock of her campaign - and announcing it publically - after one caucus win and one primary defeat. Jeebus.
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Boy you got it bad MyMy.
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I didn’t know Sargent worked here.
six anonymous Clinton associatesThis, right here, is the problem.
I’m voting for Hillary in the primary and whoever is the Dem nominee in the general.
Whoever these six anonymous “associates” are needs to be found out, and handed their walking papers: they have no discipline. Madam Secretary? Drop the hammer on them: they’re not in this for you, or the country. They’re in it for themselves.
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Gotta wonder about those “anonymous Clinton associates…”
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I broke down, Scotch-guarded my fingers and opened the Politico story and JesusGod what a festering, steaming pile of pre-mixed narrative crap all of it sourced to people described in ways that make it clear none of them were actually in the campaign and have enough butthurt about it to demonstrate precisely why they were shut out. Jesus, it was like reading one of Rita Skeeter’s articles in the Harry Potter books.
Politico’s frustration that there haven’t been any juicy leaks from inside the campaign, none of the stories of turmoil and backbiting they were so looking forward to, is palpable throughout the article. So, of course, they turned to the exact same stable of indiscreet name-dropping status-seeking assholes from the 2008 campaign who were shut out of this one precisely because they did that shit, pulled together a few tidbits of idle gossip and chitchat from what few conversations they do have with them and off we went.
It couldn’t be more obvious that Penn and Lanny Davis were among the bunch, as were a couple of members of Congress–almost certainly House members. People whose calls still get taken for the sake of politeness or old time’s sake and think it means, or desperate think others to think, they still have pull.
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Hillary should come out and say no I am not to the left as is Senator Sanders. He is a socialist and I am not. She should say if you want a socialist vote for Senator Sanders, and if you want a FDR democrat vote for me.
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